Phrases like thin privilege seem weird to me. and I noticed that leftist sre quicker to assume are sctionarcy skinny.

I whould have thought it have been the opposite? outside the west arent the poorest people skinny? not saying that weight determines you as privileged or not.

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    • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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      A AMAB person whould not be praised for being skinny even if they told people they exercise but only if they have muscles.

      that's not even true. twinks are praised and desired for being skinny, no muscles required

      you need to stop separating people into fat and skinny. there's more than two categories. Someone who's fit and works out is not treated (or analyzed by leftists) in the same way as someone who is starving

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        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          Muscular men get over emphasized bc of toxic masculinity/patriarchy for exactly the same reason skinny women are: it’s to appeal to straight men.

          Muscular men’s physiques are aspirational to straight men but they aren’t generally seen as more attractive by women and gay men in the way that skinny women are to het men.

          At least not in my experience, all of the women and gay men I’ve ever known are much more accepting and diverse in the body types they find attractive than hetmen are.

          It’s a very common refrain in het male circles that they got super muscular and experienced exactly 0 more interest from women but had a lot of dudes coming up like “woah nice pecs bro”

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            • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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              Lmao this is incel shit

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              its myth that feminime men are more attartive

              never heard of Kpop i guess lol

              My response to the reply since removed by mods in case you come back:

              It is generally true even outside of progressive spaces, I’m not talking from experience in those spaces, I don’t have any in my irl life

              Women do plenty to uphold patriarchy sure but that particular kind of attraction brainworm doesn’t really work on them bc the appeal isn’t for them actually it’s for men. If they’re upholding patriarchal body standards it’s typically policing each others body types from internalized misogyny

              This is observably true bc you don’t see women blowing up their chances with men bc they’re not muscular enough or saying shit like “I wont even look at a dude unless his biceps are bigger than his head!” Like you do with straight men.

              If I had a dollar from every person who ascribes to the idea that attraction is some written in stone thing based on some Adonis ideal (a very cishet male way of viewing attraction) being completely confused about a woman dating some guy with a body type outside of that i could push the communism button myself

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    • Magician [he/him, they/them]
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      I don't think anyone here is saying that, but we're a leftist space and not a liberal/progressive space.

      And what you're describing is the way poverty manifests in different places. Skinny people could have an eating disorder or struggle to afford food enough to maintain a safe body weight, but it's a no-win situation however you look when you're poor.

      It's a Morton's Fork situation. If you're fat and homeless, you obviously don't need support because you are eating enough. I'd you're skinny and homeless, you're probably abusing drugs or spending money on booze instead of food.

      In the US at least, because that's my only point of lived experience, if you're fat, you're not working hard. There is this weird math in play that says it doesn't matter how much you eat if you exercise hard enough to balance it out.

      You can be skinny, but if you can't do your job then you're weak and considered useless. Remarks against skinny people hurt, as does any body shaming, but there isn't the same history of shaming in the US. I think that comes from the warped misunderstanding of work ethic and the signs of work on the human body.

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        Just as an example of things I see more as a gay man - "no fat, no fem, white only" is something that is still common on the apps. There is probably an intersection where skinny falls under 'fem' but it's not explicitly called out in the same way.