Holy shit what is wrong with these people

  • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    I mean I won't go so far as to say she has no valid needs/concerns here, but like, they're on different levels. One could have severe health complications if their vigilance slips, the other wants to eat indoors at restaurants and host parties. I get that there are serious legitimate social needs people have, but I don't think these are equally important.

    The only remotely "unreasonable" thing they mention on his side is "wearing a mask outdoors when nobody is around", which doesn't affect anyone but himself or prevent any socializing... You can't just "compromise" on infection-prevention measures, because you don't get half as sick if you get covid from dining in at a restaurant when it's not very busy vs when it's busy, you just get sick either way and risk major complications. And the fact that it's being published in a national publication definitely makes it feel worse, to me anyhow.

    • regul [any]
      hexbear
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      3 months ago

      This seems like an extreme minimization and dismissal of mental health to say it can't have severe health complications.

      • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
        hexbear
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        3 months ago

        I hoped it was clear that wasn't what I was saying. Of course mental health issues can be a serious health concern with serious complications and consequences. But this writer doesn't present it in those terms, and I would say that at least in this specific case, she isn't experiencing anything with a risk of severe health issues. She wants a return to a normalcy that she knows he can't give without severe risk of harm.

        • regul [any]
          hexbear
          5
          3 months ago

          They're about to have a child.

          Do you think she will be able to raise a well-adjusted child if that child can only ever interact with other children through a screen or outdoors? Her husband's need necessitate home-schooling or remote learning, and severely restrict the child's opportunities for socialization.

          Her husband's needs and the needs of their future child are on a collision course right now. I consider that a severe complication.

          • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
            hexbear
            20
            3 months ago

            again, not how the author frames it at all, though certainly possible for that to be an issue in the abstract. But I think it is reasonable to expect, if that were the main issue, it might be mentioned in the article, whatsoever

            but in the article, it is implied the child has already been born, 1-2 years ago, and yet the author explicitly frames the conflict here in terms of her desire to return to normal. There is no mention of homeschooling or the child at all besides the pregnancy and that he went along on the vacation discussed in the last paragraph. I don't think those would be unreasonable concerns, but they are your concerns, not those of the author. For all we know they've already worked out an amenable solution to the kid's schooling and it isn't a source of conflict at all.

          • panopticon [comrade/them]
            hexbear
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            3 months ago

            Their child would probably appreciate a dad who's healthy and alive, and doesn't have to quarantine from them

              • panopticon [comrade/them]
                hexbear
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                3 months ago

                Can't help but notice that no one's going to bat in these threads for the mental health of those of us who lost a parent to COVID

          • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
            hexbear
            12
            3 months ago

            Do you think she will be able to raise a well-adjusted child if that child can only ever interact with other children through a screen or outdoors?

            I mean I think the kid would have a tougher time at life if they were to find out that their immunocompromised dad were to die because their mom valued treats and trips to Dubai over the health of her husband.

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
        hexbear
        21
        3 months ago

        There's lots of ways to modify the way you socialize (which she even goes over in the article) to accommodate for an immunocompromised spouse. If she isn't willing to keep doing it for whatever reason that's a separate problem.