I saw a conversation here where someone thought homophobia wasn't that bad in the 90s.

I had someone else say they didn't remember any anti-Japanese racism in Australia in the 90s. I being on the receiving end of it would remember it pretty strongly, but to forget it entirely?

Just really poor memory

(History? I guess this is history subbear. Given how much people seem to misinterpret events happening now, what does that say about writing of events at the tim?)

    • SnowySkyes
      ·
      9 months ago

      Right? Gay was used as a pejorative very commonly during those years. It still was extremely taboo during those years to be anywhere on the LGBTQIA+ spectrum.

    • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
      ·
      9 months ago

      I don't think homophobia ever got better, I'm just not in highschool anymore where those same 3 dudes quote family guy constantly and have favorite slurs had a captive audience. At pretty much any job, you can at least get fired for being annoying (also discrimination laws).

      • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
        ·
        9 months ago

        i think it got better in a lot of media, but i probably still don't want to be visibly queer in most of the places you wouldn't want to be visibly queer 15 years ago

        • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
          ·
          9 months ago

          idk about the US, but as most late transitioners i've put a ton of thought into why i didn't come out earlier and ... let me put it like this, for legally changing my name and gender marker, it would've been mandatory to get forced sterilization until 2012 and that name and gender marker change would've been voided if i had stashed some sperm somewhere to sire a kid and my nazi-ass country would have found out about that.

          I'm not saying transphobia isn't a thing anymore, far from it. Particularly for the elite in politics, media and academia, my basic human rights are still up for debate in a way that the basic human rights of gay people where up for debate 15 years ago, but i rarely get into trouble irl, and that absolutely would've been different 15 years ago. And that's just mainstream society, i'd also say that there's been a particularly huge change for the better in how feminist and lesbian communities treat transfems. And all of that relates exclusively to my experience as a trans woman, and as a group we've always faced a lot more open attacks, both verbally, physically and especially sexually, than cis gay men.

          So yeah, i probably couldn't have endured being visibly queer in my state 15 years ago and it's fairly doable nowadays. I'm not saying it's the same all over the world, but people here really need to understand that not every place in the world is AmeriKKKa.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      9 months ago

      It's still really bad today in most countries. And for those that live in countries where homophobia is no longer "as bad", do you really think that the abrupt change in opinion by the straights over the last decade is legitimate? From the outside, I don't buy it.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
        ·
        9 months ago

        It only got better when the West realized they could weaponize it through pinkwashing, so it only got better insofar as pinkwashing could only work if Western society is (superficially) tolerant of queer people.