I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

  • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    feel free to vote for the genocide guy. It just won't make a real difference, and you'll have the weight of voting for genocide on your conscience. the point of agitating against biden isn't just to change people's voting behavior, its to reinforce that electoralism is a waste of time and energy that could maybe make a real difference if spent elsewhere. Politicians rule at the beck and call of capital, if conditions are right for fascism, electing a liberal won't stop it, and if they aren't, electing a fascist won't let them go beyond the constraints placed by capital and the material conditions of the country in enacting their goals.

    People on lemmy love to say "well this is just voting, it takes 5 minutes, I'm not campaigning for him, so doesn't prevent me from doing other organizing" which is technically true, but coming on here and hand wringing about it kinda makes me doubt that the asker is actually committed to the struggle.

    maybe we're all just larping but if we are to get serious about organizing a revolutionary party it will require a lot more dedication and consistency than constantly hand wringing about electoralism or merely volunteering on the weekends