I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.
I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.
I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.
Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.
The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.
On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.
(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)
I feel like no one is questioning the logistics of Project 2025. I don't believe they're gonna get tens of thousands of conservatives to move to DC. I'd like to see some evidence of how many people they've got lined up for that right now. All I see is they have a budget of 22 mil and that ain't enough.
Now they can fire tens of thousands of liberal federal workers. And they might end up doing that even if they dont get the replacements. But if they want to conduct mass proletarianization of tens of thousands of highly educated workers then I'm sure they'll have a good time.
That aspect of project 2025 should just be standard practice for an incoming administration. Why would Biden keep a bunch of trump appointees in place unless that's what he wanted?
What aspect? Getting rid of federal appointees is normal practice because they are understood to be political appointments. Project 2025 says thats not enough and tries to mass purge all the non political employees as well, claiming they're actually political.
There are no non political people working for the federal government appointed by an elected representative.
Dems just don't due it because then people would expect them to do something.
Again, we're not talking about appointees, we're talking about employees, clerks, beureacrats, scientists, regulators etc. You can say that those are all still political but that doesnt matter because you'd be completely missing my point. Neither party will do that because they logistically can't replace that many federal employees. Project 2025 is the NoVA migrant caravan. A total bogeyman designed to scare the shit out of the most diehard democractic party voters by literally threatening their jobs.
If your saying scientists and regulators are non political you've clearly shown you aren't worth talking to.
Classically apolitical things like climate change, our response to covid, and checks notes regulations that limit the power of corporations in favor of people.
Again, if you don't think those people are political you don't understand science or politics.
This is a great example of why republicans rum laps around democrats. Replicas make every employee swear a loyalty oath to advancing the republican agenda and then democrats insist on leaving those people there because "theyre non partisan"
Which is how we ended up with liberals getting completely let down by comey.... and then muller.... and then garland... and every other lifelong republican they've tried to get to do the actual political heavy lifting for them.
I'm not. "Non-political employees" is just a legal definition, but its the alleged rubicon that's got all the liberals shitting themselves because its literally their jobs.
You're trying to argue against a point I'm not making. Please actually read my responses before you go on a rant or find an actual liberal to argue with.
Edit: my man, you already demonstrated that you completely understand and agree with me in this comment chain. But for some reason in this chain you think I'm making a completely different point.
Seriously not only does the rnc have like 3 mil cash on hand but they've also changed the rules so they are explicitly a slush fund for trumps legal bills. The rnc is already hemorrhaging workers. This project would be staffed entirely by people willing to not get paid and ruin their careers to make sure Trump contines to face zero consequences so he can keep living the retired mobster life in his moldy Florida cool kids club.
At best they replace the "deep-state"/"reality-based-community" with virgin young republican zealots with zero related work experience. Meanwhile the people who actually know how to orchestrate a color revolution will be completely cut loose from the state. It'll be Iraq circa 2006.
Yea they're just going to get the true believers who as soon as they come up to an actual technical problem will call the computer a cuck then be out of ideas so they stop working at 1 and go to a bar to feed their victim complex by being shot down by liberal women in DC.
The thing is, they only need to install a few dozen in positions of power and decision making to affect the direction of thousands of government workers
That's a normal administration change. The plan is explicitly to replace as much of the workforce as possible because they refused to obey Trump last time. I'm calling bullshit of them actually doing that.