i have no patience for people talking about violent rhetoric on the left really because every day i read the news and every politician in this country and in most others is saying 'we gotta kill more people'. they use different words to say it. obviously you're not supposed to just say 'we gotta kill more people'. but there's all kinds of polite and okay ways to say it.

'we need to control our borders' is a phrase which here means 'we gotta kill more people, we gotta drown more refugees in boats, we gotta send more people back to warzones and governments that want them dead, we gotta make more camps and we gotta make the camps more fatal'.

'we need to be tougher on welfare fraud' is a phrase which here means 'we gotta kill more people, we gotta make disabled people do more song and dance routines to convince some indifferent bureaucrat that they deserve to eat and we gotta make sure that the bureaucrats say 'no', we gotta starve those kids more, we gotta make sure families and kids and old people are freezing in the winter'.

'we need to tackle violent crime' is a phrase which here means 'we gotta kill more people, specifically Black people, unless we said Terrorism instead of Crime, in which case it's specifically muslims, shoot them, imprison them, surveil them, disappear them, brutalize them, whatever.'

and of course none of this is Violent Speech. this is Sensible Political Discourse. these are Common-Sense Policy Goals. we gotta kill more people: that's an electable policy. you can always count on we gotta kill more people as a platform. we gotta kill more people is gonna sweep the nation baby. we gotta kill more people 2024 -- vote now on your phones. now slow down. hold your horses. did that guy just say we gotta kill more people? well that just wont do. thats why im running on a platform of we gotta kill more people for cheaper, to stop this wasteful madness. and the people just keep dying but seems like there's still some of them left so i guess we're just circling back around to our main thing which is: we gotta kill more people

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  • davel [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    i have no patience for people talking about violent rhetoric on the left

    What violent left rhetoric is she’s even talking about?

    Refuses to elaborate further.
    Leaves.

    And anyway, what leftist response to fascism does she have patience for?

    Wait, is she even talking about the left at all, or about liberals?

    • Cromalin [she/her]
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      8 months ago

      no she's pro-violent rhetoric on the left, she's against people who go "ahh the violence on the left... truly both sides are too radical"

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      8 months ago

      i mean you can technically read the sentence like that in a vaccuum but the rest of the post makes it clear "talking about" meant 'liberals condemning the left for violent rhetoric', not that the author has no patience for plain violent leftist language.

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      What violent left rhetoric is she’s even talking about?

      Probably the idea that you can't just politely ask for or i-voted a dramatic change in the status quo. In this case it's liberals or social democrats that think revolutionary thought is icky.

      These dumb fuckers act like there wasn't violence done to establish current status quo. Did Robespierre vote King Louis out of France? soviet-hmm

      • davel [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Someone needs to tell this woman to stop erasing the left by calling liberals by our name.

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          8 months ago

          I don't think she's calling liberals "the left":

          i have no patience for people talking about violent rhetoric on the left

          In this case, it's like she's talking about anyone who is like "oh, those violent bloodthirsty commies always talking about revolutions and guillotine memes." Not leftists, but people talking about leftists if that makes sense.

          • davel [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            oic. She’s talking about liberals talking about leftists’ purportedly violent rhetoric.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      8 months ago

      She's talking about liberals who decry the "violent rhetoric" of the left while openly praising the everyday violence of capitalism

      You have her intentions backwards

      • davel [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        She deserves the dunk tank for calling liberals “the left.”

        • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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          8 months ago

          'we need to control our borders' is a phrase which here means 'we gotta kill more people, we gotta drown more refugees in boats, we gotta send more people back to warzones and governments that want them dead, we gotta make more camps and we gotta make the camps more fatal'.

          this is owning liberals

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      Surely they're taking about how we celebrate the death of our political opponents, how we have critical support for the bad guys with red lasers, and how we'd love to reeducate the people who don't get the wall. We're not exactly chill about landlords, police, troops, and billionaires.

      Not the person in the picture, I meant generally