Thanks to Lemmy, I’m finding out people think socialism is a political agenda and do not understand that any political alignment, whether capitalist ,ommunist, and (in this case) ultra nationalist can have socialist values.
Absolutely birdbrains over there. Complete internalization of socialism meaning when the government does stuff.
I mean state capitalism enacted by a socialist government definitely can have socialist values. Values such as the nationalisation of land, banking, mining and/or industry.
That's obviously not what the person on Lemmy dot world was talking about though.
Yeah and you also get state capitalism whose purpose is is to enrich private monopolies or support privatisation and imperialism, like France between 1950-1970 and the rebuilding of post hot war South Korea.
This label (state capitalism) remains vague and superficial so long as the specific content is not analyzed... Beyond this preliminary reflection, we must concretely describe the state capitalism in question by bringing out the nature and the project of the state concerned, because there is not just one type of state capitalism, but many different ones. The state capitalism of France of the Fifth Republic from 1958 to 1975 was designed to serve and strengthen private French monopolies, not to commit the country to a socialist path.
Korea and Taiwan are the only two successful examples of an authentic emergence in and through capitalism. These two countries owe this success to the geostrategic reasons that led the United States to allow them to achieve what Washington prohibited others from doing. The contrast between the support of the United States to the state capitalism of these two countries and the extremely violent opposition to state capitalism in Nasser’s Egypt or Boumedienne’s Algeria is, on this account, quite illuminating.
Absolutely birdbrains over there. Complete internalization of socialism meaning when the government does stuff.
"Capitalism can have socialist values"
-Someone with a brain the size of a pecan
I mean state capitalism enacted by a socialist government definitely can have socialist values. Values such as the nationalisation of land, banking, mining and/or industry.
That's obviously not what the person on Lemmy dot world was talking about though.
Oh yeah, I just immediately assumed they're doing the 'nordic socialism' thing, based off all the rest
Yeah and you also get state capitalism whose purpose is is to enrich private monopolies or support privatisation and imperialism, like France between 1950-1970 and the rebuilding of post hot war South Korea.