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Honestly its rude to be invited by a country to meet their president who decided to respond to your criticisms of their administration only to not show up and go meet the opposition.

Being invided and then no showing shows complete disregard to basic diplomatic Etiquette since it was a mission to show solidarity against the embargo

Bonus socdems being cringe part 4.5: about another member that didnt show up to the presidential meeting

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Deeply unserious people

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 months ago

    It does, but I'm reading it as an outcropping of the fractured state of the returning committee membership.

    I can't speak to what the International Committee facilitated, but I can say I've seen some off-shot of the delegation's visit via Noah Pasarán regarding the history of the embargo and its long term and most recent economic consequences. This is some of the most real and informative coverage of the Cuban Embargo I've had the opportunity to access, and I would consider this kind of outreach invaluable when attempting to shift views on our foreign policy.

    To dismiss the efforts of the DSA participants as a whole seems shortsighted, as it appears more radicalized members of the delegation such as Noah continued to advocate for and send support to the country.

    The article also seems to completely neglect that the DSA delegation brought 500 lbs of medical supplies to the island. Which seems like a bigger thing to crow about than two naysayers with shitty attitudes.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      It's written by DSA members trying to improve the DSA, it seems pretty clear they'd focus on what they want to improve rather than back-patting themselves on aid they brought.

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          If the scope of your plan for Cuba is limited to the amount of supplies you can carry in suitcases, you might want to find more productive places to focus your efforts to help Cuba. I don't think it's unreasonable to not focus on the drop-in-the-bucket level of material support their delegation was able to bring for an entire nation. Either way, I guarantee the writers of the article can walk and chew gum just like the rest of us can.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            2 months ago

            I don't think it's unreasonable to not focus on the drop-in-the-bucket level of material support

            Then why fixate on the two members of a two dozen person delegation you've got beef with?

            I don't see anything in this article about the next step in extending relief to Cuba. I don't even see a "follow my link to learn how to help us do X".

            The impression I get from this article is that the visit was a mistake, the DSA International Committee won't be following up or doing anything like it again, and members should feel bad about even making this much of an effort.

            • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              Your criticism seems to boil down to "they should be doing X instead of writing this article" and I must once again suggest that they can do more than just write an article. The purpose of the article is clear. You might not like it, but it doesn't mean the article is the sum total of the writer's efforts.

              What a silly argument. I'm done.

              • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                2 months ago

                zifnab often comments like this, going in circles on minutiae. I just no longer respond

                • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                  2 months ago

                  Yeah, I had them blocked for a while because of it and then unblocked them not too long ago. Not mad at them or anything just.. don't want to get dragged into this kind of circular silliness all the time.