every single one; when I see a shitty tel aviv influencer join the IDF, I look forward to them being exploded by heroic Hamas resistance fighters; I pray constantly for their violent death

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Yup fully agreed.

    Well except trying to lump in people who provide counseling after the fact that's a pretty obvious bullshit false equivalency but I suspect you know you were reaching for that example.

    It's why when I graduated I took a a job designing water and wastewater systems for small communities instead of a job that paid three times as much where I'd design bombs or do that exact kind of logistics. Because I have a functioning set of morals and not facilitating the MIC was a priority to me.

    This is why it's frustrating as somebody whonwas faced with the choice and actively worked to make choices to not be complicit in the imperial war machine pretty fucking annoying to have people insist there's no way it can be avoided.

    Apply this same logic to the pretty much universally agreed on fact that nobody should support Biden.

    If you can make excuses for the people who do the shooting, make the bullets, facilitate the logistics, or even interact with people in the military what's your problem with Biden? Probablly that he's the one causing all this to happen right? Same applies to everybody literally working every day to make it possible.

    • Rx_Hawk [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Well except trying to lump in people who provide counseling after the fact that's a pretty obvious bullshit false equivalency but I suspect you know you were reaching for that example.

      Not really, there are psychiatrists, counselors, etc who are in the military doing the same job they would outside the military. Are they more complicit than the contracted workers?

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Is their work facilitating the soldiers being able to murder people sooner?

        If so than yes, they are more complicit than psychologists who don't get soldiers cleared to get back on the frontlines asap.

        It is increasingly hilarious to watch you attempt to make this out to be a complicated moral issue.

        Here's a handy flow chart.

        Does their work enable current active duty service members to more quickly and easily kill innocent people?

        Yes --> they are bad

        No --> they are not bad

        Hell, let's turn it around and go back to the current thread were in.

        So does all this mean that actually you can't criticize the idf because everybody is equally culpable for what's going on in Gaza and the idf is going to be the vanguard of Palestinian liberation any day now?

        Expecting the American MIC to be instramental to the socialist revolution in this country sure does feel an awful lot like when democrats keep convincing themselves lifelong republican removed like muller comey and garland are going to fight their battles for them and take down a sitting republican president.

        Or like how they whitewashed Bush because he gave Michelle Obama a piece of candy one time.

        • radiofreeval [any]
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          2 months ago

          What about the normal doctors? They patch up soldiers and help them kill more.

          • Adkml [he/him]
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            2 months ago

            Sweet fucking christ this really isn't fucking difficult. Yes

            Is their work facilitating the soldiers being able to murder people sooner?

            If so than yes, they are more complicit than doctors who don't get soldiers cleared to get back on the frontlines asap.

            It is increasingly hilarious to watch you attempt to make this out to be a complicated moral issue.

            Here's a handy flow chart.

            Does their work enable current active duty service members to more quickly and easily kill innocent people?

            Yes --> they are bad

            No --> they are not bad

            Was that supposed to be a gotcha? Like I said it's increasingly hilarious to watch people try to make this complicated.

            The soldiers deserve the injuries they receive (and more) as a result of being a genocidal imperialist.

            Please reference the flow chart I have already provided.

            • radiofreeval [any]
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              2 months ago

              So kill the psychiatrists too, they help the soldiers just a little slower.

              • Adkml [he/him]
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                2 months ago

                Again, yes I'm literally not sure why anybody is having a hard time with this.

                For the third fucking consecutive time please refer to this handy flow chart I have already provided.

                Does their work enable current active duty service members to more quickly and easily kill innocent people?

                Yes --> they are bad

                No --> they are not bad

                Let's do a little exercise since apparently you need more practice.

                Answer the first question, and then try to follow this super complicated flow chart and tell me what answer you get instead of literally just asking me to walk you through it for various specific examples.

                • radiofreeval [any]
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                  2 months ago

                  Well except trying to lump in people who provide counseling after the fact that's a pretty obvious bullshit false equivalency but I suspect you know you were reaching for that example.

                  Seems like it's not an obvious false example by your own admission. That is you can't read your handy format.

                  • Adkml [he/him]
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                    2 months ago

                    You really going to make me explain to you for a fourth time the difference between psychiatrists who dont facilitate troops returning to active duty and those that do?

                    And your going to follow that up with accusing me of not having reading comprehension?

                    Bold fucking move cotton.