They recovered four, three of them AT the crash sites! How. The black boxes didn't even survive. cat-confused

  • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]
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    lol i would say the passports thing is a minor detail that doesn't prove anything on its own but dismissing 9/11 truth out of hand is LIB shit. the commission was a massive coverup and the public deserves to know the truth, acting like it shouldn't be a valid topic of discussion on here is doing state Dept work for them.

    literally conflating 9/11 truth with aliens lol. at least try to uninternalise the yankee propaganda in your brain about this before speaking on it, I know it's a topic where that's been fed to you in a particularly intense fashion but if you think critically that makes it all the more important to question official narratives.

    • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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      1 month ago

      It seems like some wrap up 9/11 truth conspiracies into a bundle and throw them all away based on the most absurd ones, like the planes actually being taken away to some black site with all the passengers still alive.

      In reality, if you view some of the details like the entire scenario surrounding the striking of the Pentagon, the very odd timing of air defense training/drills drawing fighter jets away from the region, and all the warnings from other intelligence agencies paired with Rumsfeld and friends' actions that day, it seems just as absurd to say those were a ton of wacky coincidences

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      What truth do you want exactly? We already know that 9/11 was blowback, Bush had dealings with the bin Laden family, the feds were already surveilling the terrorists, and multiple intelligence agencies including the Taliban warned the US of a major attack. Most other things don’t matter at all. Hell none of these truths even matter because the country is brain dead and no one gives a shit.

      What difference does it make if it was revealed that the Air Force shot down a plane and lied about the circumstances to make the victims heroes? We move on. We consume product. Then they argue about who becomes president and close down Guantanamo. Then we don’t do it. Feel free to prove me wrong. My proof is look around you. What happened after Snowden? What happened after Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib? What happened after MKULTRA? Kent State? All the mass shootings? FBI grooming mentally ill Muslims?

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 month ago

        Right? I am so tired of this. there's no exciting grand conspiracy, it's just the normal bs the US does every day. It's not a conspiracy because it's all legal and they admitted to it. What "truth" to people expect to find? The US does a bunch of evil intelligence bullshit? That the US alphabet soup is a bizarre combination of frightening cold blooded competence and laughable keystone kops?

        Like even putting aside that kinds of random shit survives fires, floods, plane crashes, nuclear bombings, what are we even talking about? How did they recover the passports? They picked them off the ground, just like they did huge amounts of other debris. This isn't even a debunking, there's nothing to debunk, stuff survives airline crashes and building collapses and every other kind of disaster. It's completely banal, a leading question that leads nowhere.

        Like, every event in the US is full of this. People are talking about the true-anon series about 9/11, and yeah, it's full of weird shit because it's America and we're up to our eyeballs in spies, cops, foreign influence operations, terrorists, gusanos, Banderites, the scum of every coup and color revolution. This is a nation of assassins, thieves, spies, crooks, and criminals. You can find evidence of conspiracies everywhere because there are conspiracies everywhere. except, most of the time, it's not a conspiracy because it's legal and they admit to it. But it's just boring shit; killing protest leaders, cops framing political enemies, insider trading, regulatory capture, intelligence failures, FBI entrapment bs. None of this is obscure or hidden or suppressed, it's been front page news for decades. PREDATOR and ECHELON were conspiracy theories right up until Snowden spilled the tea, but after that the NSA wiretap scheme was blown wide open, all over the news. That UN investigator who locked himself inside a bag from inside the bag in the woods then died was screaming that Iraq had no WMDs, and people knew it at the time or shortly after. They didn't care, they wanted blood and didn't care whose blood it was, but it was in the news. Is it a conspiracy that he was killed for trying to fuck up the grift? Dude was found locked inside a duffle bag and they called it a suicide. That's not a conspiracy, that's a government that knows it's untouchable and doesn't care enough to cover its tracks. When the regime didn't find WMDs they just moved the goal posts, right out in the open, where everyone could see it, and they got away with it. The Iraq war protest movement was one of the largest in history up to that time. Why doesn't anyone remember it? It's not a conspiracy, the US Media just deliberately didn't cover it. No coverage, no impact on public awareness. Its' not a conspiracy because it was legal and they did it in full view of the public.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      literally conflating 9/11 truth with aliens lol. at least try to uninternalise the yankee propaganda in your brain about this before speaking on it, I know it's a topic where that's been fed to you in a particularly intense fashion but if you think critically that makes it all the more important to question official narratives.

      Quit fronting. Nobody except for Burgerlanders give two shits about 9/11. "Why do Americans care so much about the 9th of November" is the extend most non-Burgerlanders acknowledge 9/11.

      • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]
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        1 month ago

        my friend when it literally affects the whole world people care about it lol. I have to take my shoes off at the airport because of these mfs. I'm not saying we should all shed tears but it's something worth analysing