You’re conflating the porn industry with the entirety of porn. Porn can be good I made my own with my partner and we watch it and it’s fun to make. I just think you’re scared of wanking
First of all, cut it with the smug attitude. Or are you mad because I said that something you've done is harmful? Whatever you say, it ultimately is.
Of course when speaking about porn we're going to talk to the porn industry, because that's the relevant part. Just like when vegans talk about meat, they're referencing the huge animal product industries and not the guy fishing every couple of parts. Or when leftists talk about capitalism, they are talking about the huge amount of capital, how it shapes public policy, how it causes imperialism etc, and not about the friendly neighborhood baker that employs three people.
Even if you make "good" or "wholesome" porn, it's going to end up in the huge porn industry sites, which are the cause of most of porn's harms (rapid switching of images/videos, hardcore and fetishistic content mixed with more vanilla stuff, to mention some).
It’s like saying all movies are bad because Hollywood is disgraced so if we’re going to be narrow minded about all films and generalize them then we should just admit that all independent films are bad because of the industry powerhouse
Your perception is skewed and you’re just trying to conflate different ideas that have no correlation, there is no ethical consumption of meat because you’re killing an animal, that’s different to having sex with my partner and making a movie we can watch between us, or making sexually explicit content in the form of art, or making a business out of selling your own content
To continue this discussion, we should first define porn. What I mean with porn is content that is mostly made as wank material for others, which is what everyone is referring to when talking about the dangers of porn. This excludes two things that you mention: home movies for personal use and "artistic" content. What is artistic and what isn't is another lengthy discussion, but can we agree that the majority of content in pornhub and similar sites is not made with artistic value as its primary goal?
This type of porn is mostly harmful and I've already mentioned some of the reasons. There can be individual pieces of porn content that are okay, but their consumption can still have a detrimental effect.
I called you smug because I made the simple case of nofap =/= noporn, said nofap is bs, and you still said that i'm just "scared of wanking". Same with the other commenter that said how he's better after quitting porn and instead of engaging with the comment you reply a childish "have a quick wank", as if he's stopped doing that.
You’re conflating the porn industry with the entirety of porn. Porn can be good I made my own with my partner and we watch it and it’s fun to make. I just think you’re scared of wanking
First of all, cut it with the smug attitude. Or are you mad because I said that something you've done is harmful? Whatever you say, it ultimately is.
Of course when speaking about porn we're going to talk to the porn industry, because that's the relevant part. Just like when vegans talk about meat, they're referencing the huge animal product industries and not the guy fishing every couple of parts. Or when leftists talk about capitalism, they are talking about the huge amount of capital, how it shapes public policy, how it causes imperialism etc, and not about the friendly neighborhood baker that employs three people.
Even if you make "good" or "wholesome" porn, it's going to end up in the huge porn industry sites, which are the cause of most of porn's harms (rapid switching of images/videos, hardcore and fetishistic content mixed with more vanilla stuff, to mention some).
Also how am I being smug
You shut your mouth while you speak to me.
It’s like saying all movies are bad because Hollywood is disgraced so if we’re going to be narrow minded about all films and generalize them then we should just admit that all independent films are bad because of the industry powerhouse
Your perception is skewed and you’re just trying to conflate different ideas that have no correlation, there is no ethical consumption of meat because you’re killing an animal, that’s different to having sex with my partner and making a movie we can watch between us, or making sexually explicit content in the form of art, or making a business out of selling your own content
To continue this discussion, we should first define porn. What I mean with porn is content that is mostly made as wank material for others, which is what everyone is referring to when talking about the dangers of porn. This excludes two things that you mention: home movies for personal use and "artistic" content. What is artistic and what isn't is another lengthy discussion, but can we agree that the majority of content in pornhub and similar sites is not made with artistic value as its primary goal?
This type of porn is mostly harmful and I've already mentioned some of the reasons. There can be individual pieces of porn content that are okay, but their consumption can still have a detrimental effect.
I called you smug because I made the simple case of nofap =/= noporn, said nofap is bs, and you still said that i'm just "scared of wanking". Same with the other commenter that said how he's better after quitting porn and instead of engaging with the comment you reply a childish "have a quick wank", as if he's stopped doing that.