Firstly: isntrael idf-cool

Okay now for the post.

When Palestine is liberated, I think the vast majority of settlers will either be [redacted] or forced out of the region. There is no way that any Arab in the region will accept having a settler in their land, and the settlers know this. The plan will have to be a mass exodus for the west, both for their safety and livelihood (I can see many going into ghoul industries like defense, tech, and police training).

That being said, how would you react if your country decides to accept settlers? Would you support the move? If they were going to live in your community/ neighborhoods how would you feel?

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    21 days ago

    I have heard people argue that so-called "Israelis" are basically just treated as 100% white and so will comfortably fit in any country in the Global North... But I don't think this is necessarily the case.

    I can add a bit to this. Israeli demographics are a bit odd by western standards. They consider anyone that is Jewish to be an Israeli Jewish citizen regardless of ethnic background. Other citizens are "Arab Citizens of Israel" which means Palestinian and either of Muslim or Christian background. So Palestinian Jews in Israel are considered Jews under the law despite their former historical neighbors being considered in the second-class citizen category. Part of what makes that interesting is that the Mizrahim and Sephardim Jewish ethnic groups which do make up significant enough portions of Israel's total Jewish demographic are demonstrably not "white" and are systematically treated accordingly by Israelis of Ashkenazi background. The Israel politic and society favors the generally wealthier Jewish people of European origin. Thus, a lot of the people in the IOF doing the genocide are also not "white" people, and would not pass as white in the west. Israeli society is really, really fucked.

    • Puffin [any, they/them]
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      21 days ago

      I think this is also important relevant to the idea that Jewish Israelis are entirely white European settlers with a place of origin to "go back to". Many have heritage in the middle east and were essentially forced out of their countries. Even a lot of the Ashkenazi population doesn't have a clear country that they are from.

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        21 days ago

        well it sort of is, but the novelty is that Palestinian is a uniquely dehumanized identity in Israel. It is essentially denied that they exist at all, and in practice non-white Jewish people are still people, can't be discriminated against within the law in the same ways. Arab citizens of Israel live under Jim Crow conditions, West Bank Palestinians live under apartheid, and Gazan Palestinians are experiencing genocide.

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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      21 days ago

      Great addition, I had considered mentioning this but by the time I was done writing my first comment the sun had already gone up