Like I understand that this is probably moreso about the specific mechanisms by which this happens currently in amerikkka, but the historical material point of diminishing women is to force them to being object to violence and bondage. Always has been.
Also the historical materialist point is women hold a double burden under capitalism of wage labor and domestic labor that can only be done away with under socialism.
yeah, that's a good thing for me to keep in mind. i don't think i made the point i wanted to all that well. there's a certain almost unbelievable historical credulity in most writing that appears in the Atlantic that often prompts me to question whether they're aware of history occurring at all. but my diminishing the important unique burdens instituted under capitalism does not help either.
If liberals knew history they wouldn't be liberals.
My incredibly reductive outlook:
Leftists know history and use gained knowledge to choose the correct stance/understand why things are how they are
Right wing, fascists, whatever else, think they know history, but usually it's just made up mythological bullshit. Eg Nazis obsessed with Roman Empire shit
And liberals, less far right, have no fucking clue at all. Everything is vibes based, aesthetic, optics. Things that happened are smoothed over to get rid of the nasty edges. Eg the historical necessity of violence and force at certain points to defeat oppressors. They think labor rights and civil rights just appeared one day after votes were cast and ignore the decades, centuries, of violence against workers, women, minorities like African slaves and their descendants, etc. Once some previously unimaginable progress is obtained they immediately move their mental goal post so that the new thing was sort of always there and no further progress is possible.
Really sucks when you realize fascists live off in a fantasy land of their own creations. While liberals are busy claiming all progress achieved was done by people like them while simultaneously working to block all further progress.
So that's The Atlantic's job. Claim credit for everything while always doing their best to prevent everything. Gotta love liberals
Like I understand that this is probably moreso about the specific mechanisms by which this happens currently in amerikkka, but the historical material point of diminishing women is to force them to being object to violence and bondage. Always has been.
Also the historical materialist point is women hold a double burden under capitalism of wage labor and domestic labor that can only be done away with under socialism.
yeah, that's a good thing for me to keep in mind. i don't think i made the point i wanted to all that well. there's a certain almost unbelievable historical credulity in most writing that appears in the Atlantic that often prompts me to question whether they're aware of history occurring at all. but my diminishing the important unique burdens instituted under capitalism does not help either.
If liberals knew history they wouldn't be liberals.
My incredibly reductive outlook:
Leftists know history and use gained knowledge to choose the correct stance/understand why things are how they are
Right wing, fascists, whatever else, think they know history, but usually it's just made up mythological bullshit. Eg Nazis obsessed with Roman Empire shit
And liberals, less far right, have no fucking clue at all. Everything is vibes based, aesthetic, optics. Things that happened are smoothed over to get rid of the nasty edges. Eg the historical necessity of violence and force at certain points to defeat oppressors. They think labor rights and civil rights just appeared one day after votes were cast and ignore the decades, centuries, of violence against workers, women, minorities like African slaves and their descendants, etc. Once some previously unimaginable progress is obtained they immediately move their mental goal post so that the new thing was sort of always there and no further progress is possible.
Really sucks when you realize fascists live off in a fantasy land of their own creations. While liberals are busy claiming all progress achieved was done by people like them while simultaneously working to block all further progress.
So that's The Atlantic's job. Claim credit for everything while always doing their best to prevent everything. Gotta love liberals