Okay I just heard about this for the first time now, and it turns out it the mod in question was the same ml admin that hexbear banned months ago for sexism, they said something about all women being catty and men not being into drama. I remember reporting that comment from them.
I just wonder how the hell did they last so long as a mod?
lemmy.ml has open community creation ala reddit so mods there arent all selected by the admins. this user was given way too long of a leash tho, because he was a global south "comrade" (per the posted DMs of past infractions)
Edit: It does work with voyager, just tested on an older pixel phone. Hexbear is hidden from their list of instances you can pick to sign up for, and it shepherds you into lemmy.world by default but if you click "Log In" at the bottom of the welcome page rather than "join lemmy.world or pick another server", you can type in hexbear.net manually and log in.
There used to be an issue where you had to type www.hexbear.net instead which could be why it didn't always work but that was changed a while back
I still don't see how Davel defended pedophilia. All of his comments were damning of that weird CSAM guy, he just cared very heavily about semantics. I don't get caring about that for someone else, but I get it when people start calling Davel a pedophile.
I've looked thru the modlog and his comments that are removed for "defending pedophilia" are all comments that point out what he's actually doing, and then asking how he is defending pedophilia.
I get not liking some guy who cares a lot about semantics, devatebroism is cringe, but I don't get why we need to make up something.
It was the other admin that showed his ass the worst but
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Listen, you can say this isn't defending pedophilia if you want, but coming into that thread and dropping this turd is sure going to make people think that's what you're doing. Don't act like there's no basis in fact and don't accuse me of lying
I guess I'm misunderstanding something, but isn't he saying he hasn't read through the thread at that point? Afterwards he agrees that the other guy is sus and disgusting wrt CSAM
I think you're underselling that this is an insanely bad take, especially when it's the first thing you contribute to the argument!
After actually reading the thread, he switches to admitting that the mod had been repeatedly warned about misogyny and transphobia, but denies that the mod was defending CSAM (just a bad take about AI)
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And repeatedly accuses the person who brought up the mod's behavior of being the one causing the issue
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This is debatebroing, yes, but debatebroing in the service of defending their mods defense of CSAM. Absolutely disgusting in my view, particularly in the context of the thread. It sounds like you have a much more generous reading of his comments than mine, which is fine, but don't say I'm making shit up.
Yeah I guess we just have different readings of the situation. Seems to me like he's just very particular about when someone is defending pedophilia, got called a pedophile and got defensive. But I can see how one could interpret it differently, because it is an odd hill to die on.
Thanks for taking the time to explain your viewpoint to me
Exactly what PMYF said. Its not lying or misleading, he straight up says "I didn't see him defending pedophilia" when that is literally the topic of the discussion, joker was and was banned for it.
Also, hes been fine with transphobes and misogynists in the mod team before this whole incident. I think he should be perma banned simply for that, let alone this issue.
If you need a pedophile defended to the death though there's no one I'd rather call than their admin team
Okay I just heard about this for the first time now, and it turns out it the mod in question was the same ml admin that hexbear banned months ago for sexism, they said something about all women being catty and men not being into drama. I remember reporting that comment from them.
I just wonder how the hell did they last so long as a mod?
There were two of their admins involved actually
That was the pedo mod, it was two other ml admins debatebroing hard in the dunk tank post that was disappointing.
Dessalines brought the hammer down tho at least.
Thanks for the correction
lemmy.ml has open community creation ala reddit so mods there arent all selected by the admins. this user was given way too long of a leash tho, because he was a global south "comrade" (per the posted DMs of past infractions)
I can't even read the Dunk Tank anymore because of that thread. .ml blocked it. Let me in. :(
Wow they really did block it. Guess I’m gonna have to look for a new instance.
Hexbear is an instance
I have a hexbear account but it doesn’t work with the app I use (voyager)
it should... you might be able to work with our devs/admins to figure out why it isnt currently
@makotech222@hexbear.net @CARCOSA@hexbear.net any idea why voyager wouldnt work?
Edit: It does work with voyager, just tested on an older pixel phone. Hexbear is hidden from their list of instances you can pick to sign up for, and it shepherds you into lemmy.world by default but if you click "Log In" at the bottom of the welcome page rather than "join lemmy.world or pick another server", you can type in hexbear.net manually and log in.
There used to be an issue where you had to type www.hexbear.net instead which could be why it didn't always work but that was changed a while back
Neat. Thanks When I didn’t see it in the list of instances I just assumed the dev did some kind of manual exclusion on hexbear.
yah I was worried about the same thing for a second there
Works fine on Jerboa.
Neelix probably brought cheese onboard again
Sorry bub, too spicy in there for .ml users
Your admins had to step in to protect y'all
I still don't see how Davel defended pedophilia. All of his comments were damning of that weird CSAM guy, he just cared very heavily about semantics. I don't get caring about that for someone else, but I get it when people start calling Davel a pedophile.
I've looked thru the modlog and his comments that are removed for "defending pedophilia" are all comments that point out what he's actually doing, and then asking how he is defending pedophilia.
I get not liking some guy who cares a lot about semantics, devatebroism is cringe, but I don't get why we need to make up something.
It was the other admin that showed his ass the worst but
Listen, you can say this isn't defending pedophilia if you want, but coming into that thread and dropping this turd is sure going to make people think that's what you're doing. Don't act like there's no basis in fact and don't accuse me of lying
I guess I'm misunderstanding something, but isn't he saying he hasn't read through the thread at that point? Afterwards he agrees that the other guy is sus and disgusting wrt CSAM
I think you're underselling that this is an insanely bad take, especially when it's the first thing you contribute to the argument!
After actually reading the thread, he switches to admitting that the mod had been repeatedly warned about misogyny and transphobia, but denies that the mod was defending CSAM (just a bad take about AI)
And repeatedly accuses the person who brought up the mod's behavior of being the one causing the issue
This is debatebroing, yes, but debatebroing in the service of defending their mods defense of CSAM. Absolutely disgusting in my view, particularly in the context of the thread. It sounds like you have a much more generous reading of his comments than mine, which is fine, but don't say I'm making shit up.
Yeah I guess we just have different readings of the situation. Seems to me like he's just very particular about when someone is defending pedophilia, got called a pedophile and got defensive. But I can see how one could interpret it differently, because it is an odd hill to die on.
Thanks for taking the time to explain your viewpoint to me
Exactly what PMYF said. Its not lying or misleading, he straight up says "I didn't see him defending pedophilia" when that is literally the topic of the discussion, joker was and was banned for it.
Also, hes been fine with transphobes and misogynists in the mod team before this whole incident. I think he should be perma banned simply for that, let alone this issue.