just the most obnoxious reddit brainworms. bleh

      • MaeBorowski [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        Yes, that's an important thing to remember. Instances like .world and justshit are largely responsible for dragging down .ml and other (relatively speaking) decent instances. On hexbear, we're used mostly seeing ourselves (obviously), lemmygrad, .ml, a little bit of db0, and a smattering of other little instances. The second you go on .ml, you're inundated with loads of the same shit we all thought had been left concentrated on reddit. It's not that .ml is that terrible, it's that it's too small to push back against the hordes of .worlders. And so the culture of .ml and other smaller instances slowly but surely gets degraded. Defederating from hexbear and lemmygrad preemptively by .world wasn't done just because they wanted to be "safe" from having to see opinions and takes based in a reality they like to deny (it was that too), but also so they could hold sway and more easily influence and dominate the fediverse.

        For everyone on hexbear that was gung-ho about federation because it would mean actively dunking on libs, if you were one of the ones (like me) who liked the idea of arguing with liberals and putting them in their place for all the lurkers to see how inept their worldview is, I very much encourage you to make accounts on other instances and help push back against .world's insidious shit. If you're a hexbear that has had enough of that shit and just want to chill in a leftist space, I completely respect that and would suggest that you not make accounts on other instances.

        Hexbear has almost fallen back to a state of existence similar to how it was before federation happened, with the biggest difference being more cross pollination with lemmygrad. Which is good for those I just mentioned who like to not have to see liberal and chuddy garbage outside of the dunk tank. But it's not good for .ml that they get so swamped by .world. I've said it before but I really do encourage hexbears who like the posting trenches to make accounts on .ml and check the same threads you read as a hexbear and take note of how drastically different the experience is.

          • MaeBorowski [she/her]
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            5 months ago

            nicholson-yes

            Y'know how we used to get accused of brigading but it was all lies? Yeah, we need to do that but for reals.

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    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Okay I just heard about this for the first time now, and it turns out it the mod in question was the same ml admin that hexbear banned months ago for sexism, they said something about all women being catty and men not being into drama. I remember reporting that comment from them.

      I just wonder how the hell did they last so long as a mod?

      • combat_brandonism [they/them]
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        5 months ago

        That was the pedo mod, it was two other ml admins debatebroing hard in the dunk tank post that was disappointing.

        Dessalines brought the hammer down tho at least.

      • Chronicon [comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        lemmy.ml has open community creation ala reddit so mods there arent all selected by the admins. this user was given way too long of a leash tho, because he was a global south "comrade" (per the posted DMs of past infractions)

      • underisk@lemmy.ml
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        5 months ago

        Wow they really did block it. Guess I’m gonna have to look for a new instance.

          • underisk@lemmy.ml
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            5 months ago

            I have a hexbear account but it doesn’t work with the app I use (voyager)

            • Chronicon [comrade/them]
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              5 months ago

              it should... you might be able to work with our devs/admins to figure out why it isnt currently

              @makotech222@hexbear.net @CARCOSA@hexbear.net any idea why voyager wouldnt work?

              Edit: It does work with voyager, just tested on an older pixel phone. Hexbear is hidden from their list of instances you can pick to sign up for, and it shepherds you into lemmy.world by default but if you click "Log In" at the bottom of the welcome page rather than "join lemmy.world or pick another server", you can type in hexbear.net manually and log in.

              There used to be an issue where you had to type www.hexbear.net instead which could be why it didn't always work but that was changed a while back

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      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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        5 months ago

        It was the other admin that showed his ass the worst but

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        Listen, you can say this isn't defending pedophilia if you want, but coming into that thread and dropping this turd is sure going to make people think that's what you're doing. Don't act like there's no basis in fact and don't accuse me of lying

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          • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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            I think you're underselling that this is an insanely bad take, especially when it's the first thing you contribute to the argument!

            After actually reading the thread, he switches to admitting that the mod had been repeatedly warned about misogyny and transphobia, but denies that the mod was defending CSAM (just a bad take about AI)

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            And repeatedly accuses the person who brought up the mod's behavior of being the one causing the issue

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            This is debatebroing, yes, but debatebroing in the service of defending their mods defense of CSAM. Absolutely disgusting in my view, particularly in the context of the thread. It sounds like you have a much more generous reading of his comments than mine, which is fine, but don't say I'm making shit up.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        Exactly what PMYF said. Its not lying or misleading, he straight up says "I didn't see him defending pedophilia" when that is literally the topic of the discussion, joker was and was banned for it.

        Also, hes been fine with transphobes and misogynists in the mod team before this whole incident. I think he should be perma banned simply for that, let alone this issue.

  • yff4 [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    lemmy.ml used to explicitly label itself as a leftist instance. The removal of that one word from the site description has done irreparable damage.

      • yff4 [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        .ml's description used to be "A community of leftist privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers." They took "leftist" away around the time of the Reddit thing so they wouldn't scare people off, I guess.

        • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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          5 months ago

          werent they supposed to be marxists? are they ashamed of not being fascists or something?

  • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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    5 months ago

    I sometimes tab off of local and then immediately come back because the quality of the posts goes down the shitter and no one's talking about beanis.

  • btbt [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Who knew that an entire instance of smug dumbasses who think they’re smart because they were in their high school’s Model UN would suck

    • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]
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      5 months ago

      To be fair, being in my Highschool's Model UN made me very stupid.

      I was once in a historical simulation about Revolutionary China, and I slipped into a resolution a provision about killing all landlords via hammer and sickle lobotomy

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      Our high school had a model UN but also a total lack of interest in it beyond like 5 nerds, so there was basically model UN conscription, I don't think I represented Chilean interests well on the national stage.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        they should conscript people to be world leaders in real life.

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    • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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      5 months ago

      I used to like it more, now I am trying to unlearn my debatebro nature and just become a chill dude.