I mean I do care about it in the sense that I care about not wanting the US to become even more of a white supremacist Christian fascist imperialist genocidal autocracy than it already is. But I don't see anything I can do about it that would be even remotely effective. And more than that I just don't see anyone else who actually cares about it enough to even try to do something about it so what good is me "caring" even supposed to do?

Now I do see a lot of white liberals (and "progressives", and even some white people who consider themselves leftists) panicking about it. But then when pressed about what is to be done to stop it, their solution is always, always, ALWAYS just "vote for (Genocide) Joe", which tells me they don't actually care about Project 2025, they just want to use it as a cudgel to get me to vote for the same ghouls who are blowing up Palestinians and who have let the spooky scary Republican Party get this powerful. But when I point out to them that they obviously don't really care because they aren't interested in addressing the roots of fascism or doing anything real to stop fascism, they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic", and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong. But they won't tell me what is actually factually wrong about what I say.

Besides, what do they want me to do about it? They can't seriously expect me to back a party that loves genocide, but they won't suggest anything else.

Idk I just feel like the majority of people I see raising a fuss about Project 2025 and the threat of a "Trump dictatorship" are comfortable, privileged white liberals, usually white queer liberals, who have never had to worry about the government targeting their demographics until the last few years. I and every other queer poc I know is like, "oh, they're going to go after me for another thing? Sure whatever, put it on the pile of other shit they throw at us, what's one more? Now let's get back to trying to stop the fascist Democratic Party from stealing money from our paychecks to bankroll a genocide against some of the actual most vulnerable and oppressed people in the world. If Project 2025 actually lands here we'll fight that too, but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have."

Please Hexbearians, tell it to me straight: Is Project 2025 something we actually need to pay attention to and if so what can we actually do about it? Or is the furor over it just a bunch of fragile white people panicking because they might finally be lumped in with the rest of us and finally get targeted for oppression too?

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    For me the worst thing is the GOP SCOTUS justices. The justices are toxic and their power must be curbed and that pro-Trump immunity thing overturn. Plus - the only way to restore reproductive rights is radical action on the court - packing it or whatever. Of course - if Biden somehow manages to get a second term and by some miracle stays in office the whole time - there's a zero percent chance he'll do anything at all.

    As others have said in this thread the worship of American civic religion and voting means libs will keep lecturing the public to vote and keep ignoring the fact that the only way the GOP justices can be stopped is by DC dems doing something. If Biden gets a second term and he is forced to give the presidency to Kamala (or he dies and she gets it anyway) - I guess there's a tiny percent chance she might do something.

    In fact - weird as it is - if Biden has one or two "bad days" like at the debate - libs might actually argue that voting for Biden is also voting for Kamala just in case, erm, Biden can't finish his term. And, look, maybe she'll do something about the court.

    She won't and they know it but they'll lie to the public and perhaps even themselves too. Worship of American civic religion and voting is a hell of drug.