as bad as the US is, we are far from as bad as we could ever get, and project 2025 is a clearly stated intention to take one of the single biggest steps towards "as bad as we could ever get" in US history
That's just a single example. Have you noticed that Biden campaigned against Trump's horrific border and immigration policies, and now is doing the exact same shit but worse? Same thing with the trade war against China. The democrats are constantly demonstrating to anybody willing to open their eyes that they are the exact same as the republicans except for their rhetoric. That's the only difference. Biden would do project 2025 bipartisanly and talk about how important it is to reach across the aisle.
Biden is also doing absolutely nothing to prevent project 2025, despite having just been handed a license to do literally anything as long as it's "official". Project 2025 is just the newest cudgel for the dems to beat down any dissent and drive people to the polls to vote for them. If they actually cared to stop it they would be doing it today.
its so. fucking. annoying when I talk about american politics in a discussion about american politics and I make literally any value judgment of a difference between the democratic party and the republican party and people come along to patronizingly tell me "Ackshually, both sides are bad and do bad things! You should get educated." bestie if we're opening discussion up like that then my real vote is for Stalin to come alive and beat Sleepy Joe to death with a bat televised over the national alert system and assume leadership but we're not because we have to limit ourselves to the scope of what is plausible. All that is relevant in US executive politics is the Democrats and the Republicans. Biden is not firing 95% of federal employees. Biden is not criminalizing being transgender in public. Biden is not governing by executive order. The 2025 ghouls have said that they will. They're both shit sandwiches and they both have cyanide in them but the shit sandwiches are materially different from each other. the party in charge has implications in trans rights, foreign policy, medical care, disability rights, and economics - even if it's not always even in favor of the dems, which it is often not. I'll genuflect to the supreme Hitlerian nature of Biden if that's the toll I have to pay to talk about US party politics but please let's not pretend that Republicans and Democrats are identical.
okay well that's better than it being federally decreed, is it not? Lots of states just won't rule that way, so the difference is a matter of a hundred or two million people living under laws that make letting your child choose HRT a felony. that seems kinda non-trivial
Either the administration doesn't believe the shit they're saying about the EnD oF dEmOcRaCy, or they're perfectly fine with whatever they say Trump will do. There is no other explanation for their total lack of tangible action to prevent Trump from winning.
"I'll feel as long as I gave it my all and I did the goodest job as I know I can do, that's what this is about."
These are not the words of someone who fears the end of democracy in America.
And just to say, if you vote for Biden there is no way to silo off your vote from genocide. If you vote for Biden, you vote for genocide.
I can really say "my real vote is for Stalin to come alive and beat Sleepy Joe to death with a bat televised over the national alert system and assume leadership" and still have people suspect me of being a biden voter. I'm voting for whatever socialist is on the ballot where I live. but question, if voting doesn't matter, which it kinda doesn't, what's with the intense Biden vote shaming? I think I know the answer but I'm curious to hear from someone who does it
Yeah, but like expanded all the way. Full executive control of all agencies (including FBI and CIA and state department) and also (essentially) the judiciary.
Yep. He could send SCOTUS and Trump to Gitmo or seal team 6 them. Some might call that shortsighted, but he could do it - the fallout and precedent would just be... complicated
Either the administration does not believe their own rhetoric about the end of democracy, or they're perfectly fine with allowing it to happen. Those are the only two explanations for all this bleating about project 2025 with absolutely zero action to prevent it.
Well, there is some (very liberal) action being taken to prevent it. Basically, there is a large congressional task force trying to figure out how to prevent Project 2025 from being implemented and also another focused on trying to prevent/challenge the sweeping presidential immunity granted by the supreme court 2 weeks ago. They've proposed a constitutional amendment to specifically state that the president does not have criminal immunity and have plans to prevent actions being taken/generally be obstructionist.
Now, the obvious problems are 1) you have to keep "stopping project 2025" every 4 years, and as soon as a Republican gets into office - boom, it's done. 2) constitutional amendments require 2/3 majority votes in the House and Senate to pass - and Dems will never have a 2/3 majority, and the vote will be on party lines. 3) as soon as it is implemented, the changes will all be made legal - the fascists will shape the gov't around them as soon as they gain power, that's the whole point of what project 2025 is.
This part is odd to mention since every single president has expanded the power of the presidency
bad news, we're already a full fascist state
as bad as the US is, we are far from as bad as we could ever get, and project 2025 is a clearly stated intention to take one of the single biggest steps towards "as bad as we could ever get" in US history
https://hexbear.net/post/2961436?scrollToComments=false
Project 2025 is ultimately bipartisan and the Dems will happily do it themselves.
okay but dems passing one single measure of two provisions of project 2025 is different from making the entire package of project 2025 your party line
That's just a single example. Have you noticed that Biden campaigned against Trump's horrific border and immigration policies, and now is doing the exact same shit but worse? Same thing with the trade war against China. The democrats are constantly demonstrating to anybody willing to open their eyes that they are the exact same as the republicans except for their rhetoric. That's the only difference. Biden would do project 2025 bipartisanly and talk about how important it is to reach across the aisle.
Biden is also doing absolutely nothing to prevent project 2025, despite having just been handed a license to do literally anything as long as it's "official". Project 2025 is just the newest cudgel for the dems to beat down any dissent and drive people to the polls to vote for them. If they actually cared to stop it they would be doing it today.
its so. fucking. annoying when I talk about american politics in a discussion about american politics and I make literally any value judgment of a difference between the democratic party and the republican party and people come along to patronizingly tell me "Ackshually, both sides are bad and do bad things! You should get educated." bestie if we're opening discussion up like that then my real vote is for Stalin to come alive and beat Sleepy Joe to death with a bat televised over the national alert system and assume leadership but we're not because we have to limit ourselves to the scope of what is plausible. All that is relevant in US executive politics is the Democrats and the Republicans. Biden is not firing 95% of federal employees. Biden is not criminalizing being transgender in public. Biden is not governing by executive order. The 2025 ghouls have said that they will. They're both shit sandwiches and they both have cyanide in them but the shit sandwiches are materially different from each other. the party in charge has implications in trans rights, foreign policy, medical care, disability rights, and economics - even if it's not always even in favor of the dems, which it is often not. I'll genuflect to the supreme Hitlerian nature of Biden if that's the toll I have to pay to talk about US party politics but please let's not pretend that Republicans and Democrats are identical.
You're right, he's delegated that to state courts.
okay well that's better than it being federally decreed, is it not? Lots of states just won't rule that way, so the difference is a matter of a hundred or two million people living under laws that make letting your child choose HRT a felony. that seems kinda non-trivial
i can feel the harm being reduced
Either the administration doesn't believe the shit they're saying about the EnD oF dEmOcRaCy, or they're perfectly fine with whatever they say Trump will do. There is no other explanation for their total lack of tangible action to prevent Trump from winning.
"I'll feel as long as I gave it my all and I did the goodest job as I know I can do, that's what this is about."
These are not the words of someone who fears the end of democracy in America.
And just to say, if you vote for Biden there is no way to silo off your vote from genocide. If you vote for Biden, you vote for genocide.
I can really say "my real vote is for Stalin to come alive and beat Sleepy Joe to death with a bat televised over the national alert system and assume leadership" and still have people suspect me of being a biden voter. I'm voting for whatever socialist is on the ballot where I live. but question, if voting doesn't matter, which it kinda doesn't, what's with the intense Biden vote shaming? I think I know the answer but I'm curious to hear from someone who does it
Yeah, but like expanded all the way. Full executive control of all agencies (including FBI and CIA and state department) and also (essentially) the judiciary.
Not as fascist as it could be.
Dang it's a shame there isn't someone in the white house who might be able to do something preventative to stop this boogeyman
Yep. He could send SCOTUS and Trump to Gitmo or seal team 6 them. Some might call that shortsighted, but he could do it - the fallout and precedent would just be... complicated
Either the administration does not believe their own rhetoric about the end of democracy, or they're perfectly fine with allowing it to happen. Those are the only two explanations for all this bleating about project 2025 with absolutely zero action to prevent it.
Well, there is some (very liberal) action being taken to prevent it. Basically, there is a large congressional task force trying to figure out how to prevent Project 2025 from being implemented and also another focused on trying to prevent/challenge the sweeping presidential immunity granted by the supreme court 2 weeks ago. They've proposed a constitutional amendment to specifically state that the president does not have criminal immunity and have plans to prevent actions being taken/generally be obstructionist.
Now, the obvious problems are 1) you have to keep "stopping project 2025" every 4 years, and as soon as a Republican gets into office - boom, it's done. 2) constitutional amendments require 2/3 majority votes in the House and Senate to pass - and Dems will never have a 2/3 majority, and the vote will be on party lines. 3) as soon as it is implemented, the changes will all be made legal - the fascists will shape the gov't around them as soon as they gain power, that's the whole point of what project 2025 is.