I think you're missing my point. I'm not arguing value isn't produced by the workers. I'm more saying if you think that surplus value is gonna go back into the workers that made it, that not entirely correct. Since as Marx points out, there would be deductions made and such like for the total working class, but someone making surplus-value isn't gonna get 100% of it back. Also to point something else out. Nature is a source of value to just as much as labor is.
Sorry, reading back my reply it sounds way more antagonistic than I intended
I agree with everything you said, my point was just that the current investment market is not the same as paying back a portion of the value you produce
I think you're missing my point. I'm not arguing value isn't produced by the workers. I'm more saying if you think that surplus value is gonna go back into the workers that made it, that not entirely correct. Since as Marx points out, there would be deductions made and such like for the total working class, but someone making surplus-value isn't gonna get 100% of it back. Also to point something else out. Nature is a source of value to just as much as labor is.
Sorry, reading back my reply it sounds way more antagonistic than I intended
I agree with everything you said, my point was just that the current investment market is not the same as paying back a portion of the value you produce
Okay, sorry for being aggressive and yea it def. isn't the same