A Ukrainian Neo-Nazi soldier visited the Auschwitz death camp wearing a shirt quoting Hitler in order to mock the camp's victims. This is the type of truly fascist scum that billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars are going to fund and arm.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    4 months ago

    The Azov group has literally been reorganized into one of the major and most well equipped special forces brigades in the Ukrainian army, the same is true for all the premier units with open banderites in charge of the command structure

    The only reason you're feigning ignorance about this is because Ukrainian state and social media isn't readily observable in the west, so you dipshits can pretend that neo-nazism isn't the dominant force in Ukrainian cultural and poltical life

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        4 months ago

        Which is also why it lost a lot of its own identity

        It didn't lose its identity dumbass, it has gain unprecedented power and legitimacy and is now the premier special forces division of the country

        Many people left the unit after the incorporation

        No they did not, stop making shit up, the command structure of the unit is now made up of Azov prisoners who were captured by the Russians early in the war and released in subsequent prisoner trade exchanges

        As I said elsewhere, I also "speak" Russian (can read it decently well) and I generally also read local sources.

        lmao you do not speak Russian

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            4 months ago

            Many died

            Many died and then more nazis joined, and the ones who were captured are now leading the unit

            Many new units have been created around the country

            And they're all commanded by ideological nazis and banderites leading cohorts of other convinced nazis or demoralized conscripts who don't want to be there regardless

            We are talking of an initial group (2014) that counted 600 members

            And then the years 2015, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, and 23 came and went, the concept of time I know it's wild, now Azov has thousands of fighters and premier government approved status and is simply one of dozens of openly neo-nazi units operating within the Ukrainian military

              • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                4 months ago

                Your entire argument is based on delusional magical thinking, it's the equivalent of asserting the Wehrmacht of the Third Reich weren't nazis because the SS was a separate institution and the majority of the German army conscripts weren't SS or party members, it's a derivative of the clean Wehrmacht myth except in this case applied to the Ukrainian army whose official policy is to actively celebrate nazis like Bandera and elevated neo-nazi militias in its own institution, also misses the point that these are considered elite bodies with strict recruitment policies, not football clubs any dipshit banderist can join, that's what the other dozens of brigades and incorporated nazi units are for

                the moment the battalion is part of the army and recruits from elsewhere are sent there, this dynamic changes.

                Just take how delusional this sentence is, any institution that allows nazis to openly organize and preach is by definition a nazi organization, doesn't matter if the leadership and the hardcore members are outnumbered by conscripts, conscripts who judging by internal Ukrainian polls are open and susceptible to Banderist nazi ideology, which is why the literal fuckin majority of western photography shows a cavalcade of soldiers proudly displaying nazi paraphernalia

                but you can't reject the fact that there is a difference between a self-formed militia and a battalion that becomes part of the army.

                Yeah the difference is now the nazis are given institutional approval and funding, lmao how the fuck are you missing that obvious development, if the federal government found some random neo-nazi militia and gave them federal approval, funding, and arms, that wouldn't be a good you delusional nazi apologist

                There wouldn't be a reduction of their "identity" it's would instead be elevated and given prestigious institutional status from which they can use to recruit and spread, which surprise is what has been happening, to the point we now got a nazi comfortable enough to go to Auschwitz and mock the victims of the Holocaust without any media backlash IN NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES, what do you think is going in Ukraine proper

                  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                    4 months ago

                    I tried to explain elsewhere that this =/= nazism. I won't repeat myself.

                    Ok denying Banderism is a nazi ideology just makes you a nazi yourself, can't say I'm surprised pigmask-off pigmask-off pigmask-off fash-bash

                      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                        4 months ago

                        Plenty of nationalists consider Bandera a national hero

                        What are the reasons they consider him a "national hero" what did he do while he was alive, what did he advocate for?

                        and yet they have nothing in common with nazi Germany ideology

                        Are you claiming the Banderist movement did not collaborate with the Nazi regime that occupied Ukraine? This is your last and final chance to start engaging on this topic with some honesty and rigor before I press the report button on your nazi ass

                      • Yllych [any]
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                        4 months ago

                        Bandera led the OUN-B. The OUN-B collaborated and essentially became an arm of the Nazi party in Ukraine on the eve of the invasion, and attacked in the rear of the Red Army. This is all info available on Wikipedia. Don't even have to open a book.

                        Their actions, both sanctioned and unsanctioned by the Nazis, were ones of antisemitism, Ukrainian ethnic superiority, anticommunism, and assisted in the German exterminations in eastern Europe. Not in common with Nazi ideology is that their targets didn't include themselves as Slavs (obviously).

                        As far as I'm concerned this is a distinction without difference.