I was watching "...why Skyrim?" by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it's so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn't enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It's so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!

Bethesda hasn't made a really good game since 2002, but it'll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.

  • ashinadash [she/her]
    hexagon
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    1 month ago

    soviet-pout

    I don't think so Idk, like RPG Codex nerds never make videos for instance. Most of these people who make the "eh skrim bad" videos are themselves the normals who never played Oblivion or Morrowind. Also how dare anyone put hundreds of hours into a game and not like the sequel, how abnormal!

    Personally it's because the world is worse, again, after Oblivion's was already generic high fantasy. World simulation elements like scheduled NPCs have just vanished, any attempt at a real dialogue system or prcedural chatter (however clownish Oblivion's was) has disappeared. It is a buncha generic brown grey fields and some snow. Its NPCs spout even fewer poorly voiced dialogue lines than in Oblivion and the writing of those lines, as well as everything, has gone down across the board.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      1 month ago

      buncha generic brown grey fields and some snow

      i'm going to take umbridge with this and echo somebody else in the thread: juniper, aspen, pine, high plains, and snowfields are all distinct, but i suppose continental biomes. as opposed to Oblivion 'marylanders impression of sherwood forest' i found it much more convincing, but maybe that's cause i've actually seen those things but not the english countryside

      • ashinadash [she/her]
        hexagon
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        1 month ago

        thinking-about-it Yeah I guess, I dunno, I like the marshy and the plains and the mountainous bits of Oblivion's world. Both pale compared to Morrowind ofc.

        • Dolores [love/loves]
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          1 month ago

          god i hate marshes. first thing to do in morrowind is get the fuck away from that malarial coastline