I was watching "...why Skyrim?" by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it's so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn't enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It's so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!

Bethesda hasn't made a really good game since 2002, but it'll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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    1 month ago

    Skyrim is a great entry-level RPG/open-world game for people who haven't really explored the genre. Normies absolutely loved that game and I know many people who got into much better games after getting enamored with Skyrim. It's honestly fine and does certain things really well.

    A hotter take (and one that more people need to accept) would be that Oblivion isn't good and never was. I actually think Skyrim is better as an overall game lol

    • Roonerino [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      Skyrim is definitely more playable unmodded than Oblivion simply because it gets rid of that unintuitive and broken level-up system.

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        Actually this is also something I'm only seeing in recent years, like RPG Codex dorks complained back in the day, but I'm only seeing this complaint filter down recently. I never had a problem in my 300 odd hours, it's very fucky but not a dealbreaker?

        • Roonerino [they/them]
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          1 month ago

          I'm particularly biased against it because my first character back in 2006 had multiple non-combat-related major skills and got totally screwed over as a result. Not a universal experience. But it's a very busted system so when I get the itch to replay it every few years I mod in something better.

          • ashinadash [she/her]
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            1 month ago

            non-combat-related major skills

            Sorry Todd wants you to bonk stuff with big sword, speech and mercantile are cancelled everybody go home todd

    • Yamimakai [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 month ago

      I will defend Oblivion to my dying breath.

      This certainly has nothing to do with it being my first TES game or first real open world RPG :3

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      1 month ago

      So it's like Final Fantasy Mystic Quest? I dunno though, my issue is I think Skyrim only primes people for more zero effort slop. If you play Skyrim you're not gonna be ready to create a character in Fallout 1 or w/e, since mechanically Skyrim does not have character creation...

      Worse than Skyrim brow I mean it has its problems but I'd much rather be bouncing around the Shivering Isles or doing the Painted World questline...