• ReadFanon [any, any]
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      17 days ago

      Weird how they always put words like this into the mouths of tankies yet they never seem to muster a screenshot or a link to a comment.

      Blue MAGA is wild. As soon as anyone dares breathe a word of criticism of a Democrat, immediately you're a rabid Qanon Trump supporter in their eyes.

      "I don't support voting for Kamala, she does not represent my interests or my political beliefs."
      "Don't you get it? You need to vote for Kamala to save democracy from Trump, who threatens to destroy it."
      "You mean the system where you vote for the candidate who represents your interests?"
      "Yes."

      These progressives seem so disconnected that I wouldn't be surprised if the irony in that is completely lost on them.

      • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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        17 days ago

        Well they've defederated from anywhere with a dissenting opinion so they have to guess at our opinions.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        17 days ago

        I think it's more that they live in a permanent state of exception since 2016 where they will excuse anything to stop orange man, and are insenced that you don't too.

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        17 days ago

        They're literally still calling the Gazan genocide a 'single-issue voter' situation.

        If Kamala suddenly announced she would eat every newborn child until the next election, would people still vote for her because they don't want to be 'single-issue voters'?

        The line has to be drawn somewhere and quite frankly the line started long before genocide.

      • heggs_bayer [none/use name]
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        17 days ago

        "I don't support voting for Kamala, she does not represent my interests or my political beliefs."

        "Oh, so you're saying you need a candidate that 100% aligns with your political beliefs? Sorry, sweaty, but the real world doesn't work that way."smuglord

        • ReadFanon [any, any]
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          17 days ago

          God I hate this response so much.

          The Vote Blue No Matter Who crowd seems to think that it's some purity test or a single-issue voter deal. Mostly it's just projection ("I agree with Kamala on everything except her support for the genocide so therefore it's the exact same in your case"/"I'm a single-issue voter and my single-issue is No Trumps")

          I'd be inclined to engage with this response when I come across it but I try to remember that I'm not in the business of coaching my ideological opponents in how to refine their tactics. This also goes for misogynists or queerphobes etc. as well.

          I think the worst thing that we could do is to yell at progressives for being completely tone deaf and failing to listen to criticisms of the Dems because eventually some of the more savvy and self-aware supporters are going to take this lesson on board and their outreach will shift from "Hold your nose and vote, dammit!!"/"I know what's best for you and I'm going to scold you for not allowing me to dictate what your political beliefs and best interests are!!" into something slicker and more convincing.

          As much as it boils my piss on a personal level to constantly hear this kind of rhetoric, ultimately it's to my benefit if they stick to their routine of attempting to whip the voterbase into submission because it's going to make people more disaffected, which is when those people will start looking for alternatives and they'll start seeing these issues as systemic.

          Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake and all that.

    • Cowbee [he/him]
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      17 days ago

      The Lemmy.world libs are so cooked they went from well-done to congratulations matt-grillin

      They can't form coherent thoughts, they summon a mystical enemy in their thought palace to fight against and cannot imagine someone thinking Red Genocide is also bad if Blue Genocide is bad.

      • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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        17 days ago

        I stay as far the fuck from libs as possible at all times, so I genuinely get confused for a few seconds when they say "oh yeah!? You think Kamala would be a bad president?! Trump supporter! Look everyone, this guy loves Trump!"

        I mean, at the risk, or rather with the intent, of being condescending... these people are fucking morons. They're legitimately maybe one rung higher than some baying hog covered in his own fecal matter screaming at a the school administrators that "they better remove the cat litter from his child's classroom or else!"

        Take an undereducated, over-pampered population, add a dumpster full of insane little single issue distractions from the real shit (aka US "foreign policy" as well as all the terrible stateside shit these libs also don't care about. Time to mass murder... deport...? Who knows which anymore... a bunch of migrants and asylum seekers!) shake it up for 50 years, scrub up off all that slimy gross "class consciousness" that may have accidentally existed at one point, never talk about class in real terms, never discuss what democracy should and could mean, just point at "oo brown Maslam man! Must kill!" "flings poo oo-oo! Trump! Oo! No Trump! Oo oo oo! No! No like!"

        Americans are basically slightly higher thinking great apes. We are legitimately devolving day by day and any of these coping libs who think they aren't just as fucking stupid and ape-brained as the hogs (too many animal comparisons...), well, I'd love for one of them to prove it some day. There's probably some argument that some piece of shit could make that would be at least like a legitimate attempt at something beyond flinging poo at my head when I say "Who's currently approving all the bombs and funding for bombs?" What happened to all the guys like Hitchens? I guess they're all off whining about kitty litter just like the hogs. I keep proving myself more correct!

        • Cowbee [he/him]
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          17 days ago

          Agreed. It's the end times for Empire and it will only deteriorate from here before it gets better.