Everything is getting worse all the time. We can at least enjoy it a little. Democratization of the tools of artistic creation has historically only led to better art
Having a program make art for you isnt democratizing the tools of art. The artist who created the Mona Lisa was Da Vinci. The merchant who gave Da Vinci money and said “paint a picture of my wife in front of a landscape” was the artist’s patron. You are not the artist when you tell the plagiarism machine to make a picture for you. You are the patron. This is obvious and self-evident.
You say that. Picture Ao3 after robust AI video tools are widely available. I am not hurt that I will be able to get a superwholock episode of Seinfeld with the real actors reading terrible dialog written by a 12 year old girl then they all kiss.
Will I find you there on r/neoliberal? Cause you seem to be mad that AI interferes with people's ability to make money.
I am here trying to be grillpilled about it. More people will have more treats in ways less reliant on the societal superstructure. That prefigures some amount of people's art and culture. Which is good for the revolutionary consciousness. Overall it is a small thing with interesting possible effects. I see it as possibly being enriching and liberator to the spirit of the common worker and that is p cool if that happens.
Artists are proletariat who sell their labour. AI tech bros are a bourgeois who steal the artist’s labour and profit from it. Again, this is really obvious to the point where I don’t know if you’re arguing in bad faith.
Yes and AI represents more people getting to make art. It will be like when digital art replaced regular art. People still love old kinds of art but now more people will be able to make more things and that is in the end better for everyone involved.
Yes and AI represents more people getting to make art.
But they’re not getting to make art they’re having a plagiarism machine make it for them. A person at a restaurant is not a cook because he orders the food. And the means of production for art are a pencil and paper, it’s already pretty fucking accessible.
that is in the end better for everyone involved.
Destroying the environment at a staggering pace and and giving bourgeois a reason to devalue the labour of artists, writers, programmers, musicians, lawyers and god knows how many other types of worker is not a net good for the world. You just want your treats and you don’t wanna feel bad about it.
Every indication is that by the time the tools are ready for mainstream adoption in terms of photoshop the code will be optimized enough you don't have to run it on unholy asemblages of parts. Looking st thr stuff gpt4 puts out. It would take years of gpt2 processing. If we crunch that down as engery savings we cna hope gpt5 will be abel to just use long term storage instead of processing. At least for consumer grade stuff. As to the rest, you can't blame AI. Capitlaism was doing that anyway. Every kind of professional art has in a rough state lately. The issue here is techbros actually made a new tech that works. If they didn't they woudl have just found an innovate way to exploit labor further. So this isn't as bad as it could have been
I took this post and asked an AI to restate it to me with slightly more honesty
no dude artists and programmers and musicians and actors and lawyers and all desk jobs are doing bad anyway so it doesn’t matter if AI makes it worse I’m not Maija it worse it’s capitalism making it worse it’s not me bro it’s the tech bros it’s capitalism it’s not my fault dude I’m not hurting the environment dude it’s not TREATS I NEED MY TREATS GIVE ME MY TREATS
Most art sucks. scroll through deviant art you know I am right. This is a toy that will eventually let non-artists make art that sucks. Which is fun. It would still require an artist to make AI art come out well. Where you are at emotionally is where the old animators were when flash player came out. Did skilled animators lose their position in the market? Do we get to see cool.new linds of animation and ideas now? Was the proliferation of kinds of animation we get to see worth it? Are the animators who still work miserably exploited anyway? Everything is always gonna get worse all the time. Having a thing that lets more people enjoy art seems like a better outcome than the usual enshittification we expect. I am not sure where you disagree with me. Lets look at a case study. One of the big vfx channels on YouTube, corridor, sometimes uses AI to help streamline production for their videos. Is that bad?
Dude I have an idea it’s so cool just chew some glass dude it would be so funny
Everything is getting worse all the time. We can at least enjoy it a little. Democratization of the tools of artistic creation has historically only led to better art
Having a program make art for you isnt democratizing the tools of art. The artist who created the Mona Lisa was Da Vinci. The merchant who gave Da Vinci money and said “paint a picture of my wife in front of a landscape” was the artist’s patron. You are not the artist when you tell the plagiarism machine to make a picture for you. You are the patron. This is obvious and self-evident.
You say that. Picture Ao3 after robust AI video tools are widely available. I am not hurt that I will be able to get a superwholock episode of Seinfeld with the real actors reading terrible dialog written by a 12 year old girl then they all kiss.
I think Reddit may be more your speed.
Will I find you there on r/neoliberal? Cause you seem to be mad that AI interferes with people's ability to make money.
I am here trying to be grillpilled about it. More people will have more treats in ways less reliant on the societal superstructure. That prefigures some amount of people's art and culture. Which is good for the revolutionary consciousness. Overall it is a small thing with interesting possible effects. I see it as possibly being enriching and liberator to the spirit of the common worker and that is p cool if that happens.
Artists are proletariat who sell their labour. AI tech bros are a bourgeois who steal the artist’s labour and profit from it. Again, this is really obvious to the point where I don’t know if you’re arguing in bad faith.
Yes and AI represents more people getting to make art. It will be like when digital art replaced regular art. People still love old kinds of art but now more people will be able to make more things and that is in the end better for everyone involved.
But they’re not getting to make art they’re having a plagiarism machine make it for them. A person at a restaurant is not a cook because he orders the food. And the means of production for art are a pencil and paper, it’s already pretty fucking accessible.
Destroying the environment at a staggering pace and and giving bourgeois a reason to devalue the labour of artists, writers, programmers, musicians, lawyers and god knows how many other types of worker is not a net good for the world. You just want your treats and you don’t wanna feel bad about it.
Every indication is that by the time the tools are ready for mainstream adoption in terms of photoshop the code will be optimized enough you don't have to run it on unholy asemblages of parts. Looking st thr stuff gpt4 puts out. It would take years of gpt2 processing. If we crunch that down as engery savings we cna hope gpt5 will be abel to just use long term storage instead of processing. At least for consumer grade stuff. As to the rest, you can't blame AI. Capitlaism was doing that anyway. Every kind of professional art has in a rough state lately. The issue here is techbros actually made a new tech that works. If they didn't they woudl have just found an innovate way to exploit labor further. So this isn't as bad as it could have been
I took this post and asked an AI to restate it to me with slightly more honesty
Most art sucks. scroll through deviant art you know I am right. This is a toy that will eventually let non-artists make art that sucks. Which is fun. It would still require an artist to make AI art come out well. Where you are at emotionally is where the old animators were when flash player came out. Did skilled animators lose their position in the market? Do we get to see cool.new linds of animation and ideas now? Was the proliferation of kinds of animation we get to see worth it? Are the animators who still work miserably exploited anyway? Everything is always gonna get worse all the time. Having a thing that lets more people enjoy art seems like a better outcome than the usual enshittification we expect. I am not sure where you disagree with me. Lets look at a case study. One of the big vfx channels on YouTube, corridor, sometimes uses AI to help streamline production for their videos. Is that bad?