https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1838581688017846328

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    3 hours ago

    A lot of people here are missing the funniest thing about this: SAI is floundering, has lost most of its tech talent, and suffered hard to the double punch of SD3 sucking complete shit and Flux showing up like a month later and being everything people had expected SD3 to be but better. SAI has also been pivoting away from the open source release model that got them literally all of the attention they've gotten in the first place.

    So it looks like James Cameron's role with this would be trying to use his reputation to grift more investor money to keep the company that now doesn't have the engineers responsible for all the popular Stable Diffusion models anymore afloat. I wonder if he knows he's hopping onto a failing grift or if they've successfully tricked him into thinking there's anything of value left in SAI?

  • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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    4 hours ago

    Isn't he supposed to be an infamous perfectionist with his work?

    I guess he might be the 0.001% of AI users who can actually get something usable out of the tools because he's willing to hogtie and drag it through the streets until it does exactly what he wants but like

    You have shitzillion dollar CGI industries at your beck and call who can actually make 3D assets the regular way lmao why would you bother browbeating the slop machine instead

  • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 hours ago

    It'll be so fucking funny if the remaining Avatar movies are unintelligible AI slop that also bring this world a little closer to being a lifeless husk no-i-in-pezza

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      6 hours ago

      Imagine Skynet, except destroying the planet to make more movies about Skynet faster and more conveniently with less paid workers. brrrrrrrrrrrr

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    5 hours ago

    I'm pretty sure he has already done like two "4k remasters" where he just took whatever the latest blu-ray was then upscaled and denoised/grained it with AI so it looks like dogshit.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      5 hours ago

      I'm pretty sure he has already done like two "4k remasters" where he just took whatever the latest blu-ray was then upscaled and denoised/grained it with AI so it looks like dogshit.

      Sounds like what George Lucas did to his own Star Wars movies, except in some ways worse.

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 hours ago

        Imagine all the little freak Glup Shittos that would be added in via AI if Lucas hadn't sold to Disney lmao

        Edit: Well, I guess now we just have the digital corpses of OT actors edited into shit indefinitely

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      4 hours ago

      The Aliens one is ok, it adds a bunch of errors but doesn't change or ruin the movie. The True Lies one looks like shit.

    • bortsampson [he/him, any]
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      3 hours ago

      FFMPEG does a much better job at upscaling to 4k than the majority of the remasters being cranked out.

    • StalinStan [none/use name]
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      3 hours ago

      I am excited for two generations of tech to go buy and I can just click a button and get Studio Ghibli's Aliens.

    • june [she/her]
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      6 hours ago

      And Avatar (the blue tall people one)

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        6 hours ago

        "We need to burn down and bulldoze the land masses of Pandora because the treat printer to make more Avatar slop needs additional database expansion." eco-porky

      • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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        5 hours ago

        Huh. I really liked the nature vibes of that one and the anti extractive colonialism message. Could have done without the white savior angle though.

    • MF_COOM [he/him]
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      5 hours ago

      Yeah but when they're talking about AI here they're really just talking about a guessing machine they're not actually talking about AI

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        5 hours ago

        But according to a lot of glazers for this shit, a guessing machine with enough electricity and enough waste carbon output suddenly becomes GAI.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      6 hours ago

      Yeah, but then he got a lot richer and a lot more famous and he's chasing the bazinga dragon for relevance.

  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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    3 hours ago

    Nah, now shit is really gonna pop off. I am excited. Cause as much as this hurts artists it will eventually hurt the studios the most. And after all that settles we can just buy a cheap Chinese solar pannel to give us infinite cheap treats

      • StalinStan [none/use name]
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        2 hours ago

        Everything is getting worse all the time. We can at least enjoy it a little. Democratization of the tools of artistic creation has historically only led to better art

  • bazingabrain [comrade/them]
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    6 hours ago

    CGI 3 decades ago has nothing to do with what CGI is today lol. Its like comparing the fucking lumiere brother's cinematographe and a camera from the company RED.

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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      5 hours ago

      moreover, cgi 3 decades ago had nothing to do with stealing people's art today and presenting it as your own as long as it goes through a computer rube goldberg machine

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        5 hours ago

        I can still see uses for LLMs as tools, however, they are being used on the largest economic scale right now by tools.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            5 hours ago

            Especially on a personal scale, I definitely see the value and the lack of harm if it's just regurgitating your own work to eliminate repetition.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      6 hours ago

      It's like Chris Roberts claiming to be a cutting edge "code whisperer" to his credulous Star Citizen cultists when he hasn't actually coded a game since fucking 1994.

      • Redcuban1959 [any]
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        4 hours ago

        Chris Roberts found a way to have GenX rich nerds to pay for his vacations.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          4 hours ago

          Chris Roberts found a way to have GenX rich nerds to pay for his vacations.

          He even publicized a self-quote about how he'll work so hard and use that crowdfunded money so well that you'd never see him on a yacht.

          Show

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    6 hours ago

    Oh boy even more slop and now the slop will derive itself from prior slop and crowd out almost everything else and burn the planet down faster than ever before, and if you don't like it you're an emotional Luddite! Bazinga!

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  • bortsampson [he/him, any]
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    5 hours ago

    I wonder if this has to do with integrating into modeling/vfx software like Houdini and Blender. Those "AI" tools are actually pretty good use cases for the tech.

    Edit: I mean the texture generators specifically.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      5 hours ago

      I wonder if this has to do with integrating into modeling/vfx software like Houdini and Blender.

      How's the energy demands and carbon output of that compared to prior conventional methods? I don't know; I'm actually asking.

      If it's anything like the giant coal-powered hell factory databases that tech startups are using and expanding right now to chase the "AI" hype dragon, we don't need more of that.

      • bortsampson [he/him, any]
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        4 hours ago

        Depends on texture size and model. The models before LLMs and SDF hype are extremely efficient with the right libraries. Without getting to into the weeds these older ones are no different then doing any other image processing (like applying a gauss blur on 8k image or something). Newer stuff uses diffusion models. So something like a 500x500 texture probably is the equivalent to leaving 25 watt lightbulb on for an hour at worst. But you do it once and it repeats so it's efficient. I know the early models were trained on cropped animal patterns, zoomed in materials, and other very vanilla datasets.

          • bortsampson [he/him, any]
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            4 hours ago

            No problem. It's appalling companys are pushing this out at scale and virtually uncapped. These models use as much power as large scale scientific simulations/models. Video more so. You don't want a lot of people running these concurrently. VERY BAD lol