https://www.reuters.com/article/world/ukraine-passes-language-law-irritating-president-elect-and-russia-idUSKCN1S110Y/

Literally the whole media switched spelling around this time.

iRaq and iRan are silly but the "Kyiv" stuff is different.

  • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    The most idiotic thing about this is that English pronunciation of both Kiev and Kyiv is equally far from both Russian and Ukrainian pronunciation.

      • Hexboare [they/them]
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        2 months ago

        We're not going to succeed in making English the dumbest lingua franca by making the sounds match the letters.

        20 vowel sounds for five vowel letters is language perfection

      • KoboldKomrade [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        If elected president, I will do nothing but push for a phonetic alphabet.

      • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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        2 months ago

        love going on anglo wickypedia and looking up a country, city, or non-anglo person from history

        pronunciation guides are first in some anglo gibberish fo-NEY-ticks with big SHOU-ty letters and nonsensical spelling, for some weird anglo pronunciation, and then IPA for the [weird] anglo pronunciation, and then the pronunciation in local language

        por ejemplo

        Hexbear (US: HAYKZ-buhr [IPA: 'hejks,bə:r]) (UK: HEKS-beh[IPA: 'heksbɶ:] ) (Marxist Standard: Hexbear [IPA: häx'bɑˑɾ̼])

      • Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 months ago

        Your pronunciation examples confuse me greatly. "ah" from "alternative"? "eh" from "bad"? Certainly not in my accent.

      • WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        𐑞 𐑮𐑰𐑟𐑩𐑯 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯 𐑦𐑟 𐑯𐑪𐑑 𐑿𐑟𐑛 𐑦𐑟 𐑚𐑦𐑒𐑪𐑟 𐑦𐑑𐑕 𐑡𐑳𐑕𐑑 𐑦𐑥𐑐𐑪𐑕𐑩𐑚𐑩𐑤 𐑑𐑵 𐑒𐑩𐑯𐑝𐑦𐑯𐑕 𐑩 𐑚𐑦𐑤𐑘𐑩𐑯 𐑐𐑰𐑐𐑩𐑤 𐑑𐑵 𐑤𐑻𐑯 𐑣𐑶 𐑑𐑵 𐑮𐑰𐑛 𐑩𐑜𐑱𐑯

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Are you sure that bad isn't baed and elephant isn't something else?