Anyone else love how something like 90% of being a lefty is having to contend with lazily wrought strawmen? Love when more than half the burden is getting people to correctly understand what they're arguing against.
I guess, but I personally struggle with it more almost, because there's something weirdly demoralizing and frustrating about people throwing out arguments that shitty because they've picked them up from chud youtube or whatever. Like, for every one I go through to try and refute, it feels like a dozen more jackasses come to parrot the same anti-communist propaganda.
Yeah, it can be grating. What I find heartening is that talking to people and gradually pulling them left is working. Just look at the presence of anything left of Obama today vs. 2014 or 2015. It's night and day.
It depends. The guy (and yes, it's a guy) who mainlines Ben Shapeeno videos and was president of his College Republicans chapter? Yeah, you're not going to convince them of anything.
But in a media environment that's been saturated with militant anti-communism for at least the last 70 years, you're also going to find plenty of people who regurgitate bad arguments because they've passively assimilated them from the background noise and never really dug into the matter. If you get them interested in digging a little deeper, you might get somewhere.
And of course -- especially online -- there are always the folks reading, listening to, or watching the conversation but not participating. They might be closer to that second guy, but they have enough doubts about a bad argument to not voice it themselves. They might be persuadable even if you can't reach the first two.
Anyone else love how something like 90% of being a lefty is having to contend with lazily wrought strawmen? Love when more than half the burden is getting people to correctly understand what they're arguing against.
Hey, it's in many ways easier than having to deal with good arguments.
I guess, but I personally struggle with it more almost, because there's something weirdly demoralizing and frustrating about people throwing out arguments that shitty because they've picked them up from chud youtube or whatever. Like, for every one I go through to try and refute, it feels like a dozen more jackasses come to parrot the same anti-communist propaganda.
The overwhelming horde of chud takes vs one leftist sword person
The Law of Conservation of Postjutsu
Yeah, it can be grating. What I find heartening is that talking to people and gradually pulling them left is working. Just look at the presence of anything left of Obama today vs. 2014 or 2015. It's night and day.
But it's always good to log off for a bit, too.
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It depends. The guy (and yes, it's a guy) who mainlines Ben Shapeeno videos and was president of his College Republicans chapter? Yeah, you're not going to convince them of anything.
But in a media environment that's been saturated with militant anti-communism for at least the last 70 years, you're also going to find plenty of people who regurgitate bad arguments because they've passively assimilated them from the background noise and never really dug into the matter. If you get them interested in digging a little deeper, you might get somewhere.
And of course -- especially online -- there are always the folks reading, listening to, or watching the conversation but not participating. They might be closer to that second guy, but they have enough doubts about a bad argument to not voice it themselves. They might be persuadable even if you can't reach the first two.
"You just want free stuff!!!!!!!"
Yeah so fucking what?
We don't want free stuff for ourselves, we want free stuff for everyone.