Destiny's community now suddenly cares DEEPLY about the situation in Gaza.

I hope leftists realize what they’ve done to the Palestinians.

They’ve doomed them, I’m not joking. The Trump admin is going to go full bore and let Netanyahu do whatever he wants. The ones in Gaza will get pushed over the border to Egypt and the West Bank will get annexed. The leftist who sat out this election have ensured it will go from a brutal war to an actual genocide.

When you see reports of horrific things going on in the U.S. and abroad. Just know, this was the future American leftists chose. To watch the world burn rather than settle for incremental progress. As they’re a bunch of privileged champagne socialists who aren’t going to be the ones burning.

  • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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    15 days ago

    The most frustrating part of this sentiment is that it frankly gives us too much fucking credit. I genuinely wish we could take credit for this result...but there's a bit of a problem with trying to scapegoat lefties this time around. Hilary wasn't owed green votes in 2016 either but it was at least true that if she had gotten them the election was close enough she could have clinched it. Michigan was basically the one state in 2024 where the spoiler effect really could have been enough of a factor to deny Harris a win but it turned out they didn't even fucking matter in the end.

    2024 is a clear decisive Trump victory. There's no way around it. They're in just in full on denial and finger pointing trying to say the radical left cost them this one.

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      15 days ago

      I've been saying this to my friends. I was actually glad that she lost so thoroughly because it makes it easy to make this point.

      • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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        15 days ago

        Sure, that's not a non factor...but I think you'd be hard pressed to quantify that in any sort of objective/concrete way.

        At that point you're basically saying "If more people had shown up and voted for Kamala, she would have won". Like...no shit. Cool story bro. The fact is: they didn't show up and you can't really definitively say why. I actually wish I could say it was because of Gaza but I think that's extremely wishful thinking. The reality is there were probably a whole host of reasons people didn't turn out.

        • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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          15 days ago

          You are not wrong, however I think it is a bad decision to say that they would have lost even without us, or that they did not have a chance of winning if they did not support genocide. I think that it is an important naritive that our witholding of votes prevented her win, especialy if we once agan squander this chance to organize effectivly

          • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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            14 days ago

            My response would be, that's a cynical tactic you could opt for but I don't think it's a winning message both because:

            A) while you can spin it that way: I don't think the data we have really bears that out and I think it's easy to call out as spin.

            B) this cycle has left me especially cynical about converting the democratic party. Even though the spoiler effect wound up not mattering in the grand scheme, the Democrats definitely were nervous about it and they still opted for this direction. Given the choice between losing and shifting left, it seems to me like they will choose losing.