"Now we just need to add a clause to the contract to exclude communists and we'll be good to go"

Apologies if this is the wrong comm, I'm a little confused with the changes still.

Collectivizing some takes from comrades for some counterpropaganda:

  • The paradox of tolerance is a semantic fallacy — tolerance = socially progressive, not pain tolerance: "smuglord Oh, you're a tolerant person? Tolerate this then! punches you in the face". To put it another way, tolerating other people (the bare minimum!) is different from tolerance for concepts.

  • The tolerance paradox only exists if you see tolerance as some logic puzzle rule and not a practical outcome for the lives of the marginalized. As this post pointed out, tolerating "all political parties" when some are openly trying to cause harm to others (e.g. actual Nazis) isn't more inclusive. Unlike actually marginalized groups, political views are, while also a product of your environment, at least something you have control over. In case you think this is just a point of theory, this has harmed trans people previously, for instance.

Consequently, the so-called "paradox of tolerance" can often ironically be used to argue for intolerance.

We don't need a society where all viewpoints are tolerated. Even well-intended ones often shouldn't be, as Mao famously put it:

Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn't that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    15 hours ago

    porky-happy "retvrn to tradition"

    >Doing antisocial things means you're exiled from society and anyone can hunt you for sport if they want to

    porky-scared-flipped "no not like that"

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      15 hours ago

      Doing antisocial things

      If by doing antisocial things, you mean doing mass killings of 2 or more people, certainly

      and anyone can hunt you for sport if they want to

      Make it quick, and don't make a mess of it

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        14 hours ago

        The only difference between the mass shooter and the social murderer is that the mass shooter has a lower death toll than the wealthy person or corporation dodging taxes and destroying the biosphere. They're on the list certainly but they're so far down the list.

        • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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          14 hours ago

          the mass shooter has a lower death toll than the wealthy person or corporation dodging taxes and destroying the biosphere

          I actually forgot about that, but anyways

          knight-nod

          Any corpo and their shareholders who causes a 2nd Bhopal will get gulag'd at best, and executed and body disrespected and composted at worst