Honestly I'm mostly just venting, others already replied, and then we got the inevitable "well okay if it's that big of a deal you don't need to tiptoe around it" post in response, but does anyone else have a playbook for dealing with this tactfully but directly?

These are people who are not wreckers, just sort of naive, as far as I can tell, but of course you can't know for sure. They've said shit like "well then where am I supposed to I'm a revolutionary, I'm not afraid of anything" (phrased a tiny bit nicer) in response to being told "hey keep in mind these chats are almost certainly monitored"

its like, hey, obviously people are being cagey because they don't want to denounce direct action, but also don't want you to blow up the aboveground org by being needlessly purposefully reckless in communicating about your planned heavily implied crimes. But I don't even want to explain that head-on because in that response I'd also be endorsing direct action in a semi-public forum, or tiptoeing around it the same way the other responders did. Like I want to say, and would say if we were in person, that this is an aboveground org and that you can probably use this as a network to find likeminded individuals but you're going to have to build out a little bit of trust by talking to them in DMs or in person and put together a smaller group that's not directly attached to the org, because we can't have your grudge blowing up the whole thing.

How hard is it to chat one-on-one and form a smaller more trusted group? Just because you don't fear repression doesn't mean you shouldn't take any precautions jfc

people are way too fucking open about their feelings and internet-brained, feeling like "well if I can't fedpost in this specific groupchat then where am I supposed to do it???"

I mean fuck maybe they are wreckers. But I feel like its usually marginalized people who are most like this, maybe because of feeling like they have nothing to lose, so I don't feel like we should just push them away either

I could message them privately but ultimately then 1) I've got a target on my back if they are wreckers and 2) I feel like I'm basically whitesplaining to them

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    1 day ago

    Not going to do it, but one could type up a big fedbait manifesto with all the right keywords and then record the visit from the fbi or ss and show how fedposting leads to scrutiny and that the ss really does have no sense of humor and no chill, and that the threshold for getting the 'ol thumbs in cheap suits interview is quite low.

    You could try convincing them to read Bandit Country about the IR during the troubles phase of the anlgo-irish war. A constant theme in the book is that people who fedposted were killed or imprisoned along with their entire cell and sometimes bystanders, and the cells that survived never talked to anyone outside the cell about operational matters. No friends, not family, not even other cell members unless they were specifically doing cool shit. If you talked you were neutralized, and that was with 30 year old signals intel technology. Even today most security services rely on snitches, informants, and sloppy talk to take people down.