I might be way off the mark here but the more I think about self crit and my own neurodivergence (maybe I'm been a bit black and white about this) the idea of having a sub where people go to self flagrate over their mistakes to signal to us they are reformed?

I dunno chat.

I've lurked here a while and while some of the drama on here has been funny or sad or anger inducing, at no point did I ever feel satisfied reading a self crit post. I never felt "oh the sights clean now time to make an account".

I butted heads with incels on here immediately and while those people genuinely made me uncomfortable i don't wish to see a selfcrit from them. In fact it would frankly appear disingenuous and virtue signally to me.

Like if people get called out then it's on them to go do the homework, I don't expect to have to mark it though. The people I butted heads with about that incel thread got comments removed and temp banned. That seems reasonable to me. I'll die inside if I see a self crit on it.

I dunno I think there's a lot of neurodivergence on this site, myself included. We try to make it a safe space for everyone which is great.

I think what I'm worried is that a culture exists on here where if a ND makes a mistake, they may feel cut off and left out from a community they need for socialising and support unless they make a self flagrating post further signposting their mistakes.

There's a very niche and cool silly culture on this site. For a lot of ND people who don't have supportive irl group I can't imagine how it would feel to make fuck up and then feel locked out or lost this clique. I don't think making a new account is the answer either because people's accounts and history are representatives of who they are so to lose that for some might be like losing their identity as well. Maybe I'm projecting here but if I really embarrassed myself and didn't think people would talk to me as much on here because of it and that the only way to fix it was a self crit post. That's scary.

And then when i see self crit posts I feel like "damn nobody needed this, it feels uncomfortable to see this" like them getting dog piled and a temp ban wasn't enough punishment.

Like it felt maybe relevant when the admins/mods did some self crit on their behaviour but like they run the site so that kinda makes sense (not really).... or it might have if they all did it, so far I only saw like a few and even then it felt uncomfortable to read their comments.

Clearly they made a mistake and having to convince faceless terminally online people that they had the sites best interests at heart was sad to watch given they clearly did care cos of the graft they put into the site.

I dunno I don't see the point in this comm personally but I'm bored, my tamagotchi just died and I have always kinda thought this since the comm appeared so like yeah, let me know what I'm missing because I'm not the world and obviously my single view will be bias and full of holes or missing context.

Until then the sub feels a bit like todd asking cheaters on fo76 to write an apology letter and it feels like a bit of a toxic power dynamic to have it on the site kinda looooming as an example of what happens to the naughty hexbears.

Edit: lmao I've deleted and undeleted this twice cos I'm scared of getting grief but then I'm kinda proving my point doing that so I'll be a big girl and leave it up.

  • Elle_Emperor [none/use name]
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    2 hours ago

    Self crit is good, just because nothings perfect doesn't mean we shouldn't try to have anything like it

    • Verenata [she/her]
      hexagon
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      2 hours ago

      I don't disagree wojak-nooo

      I think the question I was really asking is, is it actually productive? People say it is so that's positive!

      • Elle_Emperor [none/use name]
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        2 hours ago

        i think its productive, but isn't perfect. Its more to publicly acknowledge being incorrect in the argument, or whatever they are saying sorry for being wrong in. So that more people are discouraged from holding those opinions.

        although i do easily see your critiques, they aren't wrong, it can definitely be used to virtue signal (LOOKING AT YOU BUKHARIN) just to continue holding the opinion while getting rid of the flak, those people aren't very subtle. Its easy to catch them in their shit later.

        • Verenata [she/her]
          hexagon
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          2 hours ago

          Bukharin? Omg is there drama here? Oh no my toxic trait is showing. I love gossip.

          Edit: oh like the actual guy? Not a user with that name 💀

          My Self crit: don't be a gossip slut

            • Verenata [she/her]
              hexagon
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              1 hour ago

              Give me slop!

              I can't stand badempanada or thekavernacle on YouTube cos it feels very cis het dude is so convinced he's right and has good politics so listen to him and I hate that but omg them covering ethan klein v hasan has mckwkxkwkxwkxjwcjekfkwd I want moreeeeee.

              I felt so smug to a friend cos I called ethan out as a bellend (more cos I thought he was so unfunny vs any awareness) when we were teens and she was a big fan and then this all happens and I couldn't not be like "how that h3h3 merch going girl?"

              Don't feel bad she's a bad reddit lib

          • Elle_Emperor [none/use name]
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            2 hours ago

            nonononono im sorryyyyyyyyyyy its the guy from pre ww2 soviet politics its just a thing

            Edit: oh like the actual guy? Not a user with that name 💀

            SORRY doggirl-tears

            no being gossip slut is based we even have a channel for that now, leftists love gossip we basically thrive on it.

            • Verenata [she/her]
              hexagon
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              1 hour ago

              I've ran out of youtube gossip content that isn't directly triggering so I'm on such a drought right now.

              And people seemed to have calmed down dying in caving disasters or mountain expeditions so there's no slop on YouTube either!! I have you-died-2