Verenata [none/use name]

Fingers crossed thats so brave!!

Advice?

Breathe, chill, roll a j, vibe 💅

From the sounds of it you two are close and mean a lot to each other. You've said your peace and given her agency and choice. Cool beans.

If she says no and she meant as a friend will you still stay friends?

You think they'd curate their online store more since they're all "family friendly" but for everyone one of these games there's 5 "pretty girl klondike" games and I find that so bizarre.

Like surely the family friendly console would ban horny/violent low effort shit from their store 🤔

Multiple people in this thread my dude. This is what happens when extremism isn't shut down.

Edit: I was so harsh earlier, I want to say sorry. This whole thread was horrific to read and genuinely terrifying. Watching men decide for me or other women that we owe our abusers time to reform them and we are the problem for pushing back. It's a lot. Its scary, it shows men haven't learn the basic lesson we've being screaming for centuries "stop making decisions for us and taking away our agency". A key lesson a lot of people in this thread could do with internalising imo.

I think what you are doing to help big brother these peeps is great honestly.

I just worry that without condemning it as the extremism it is, we get comments making a serious suggestion for sex coaches for incels in a supposed safe space for leftists. How does that happen?

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Projection!!!!!!

Says the person who thinks women should sex coach incels out their victims complexes 🤣

Sorry whos the one who decided woman owe incels that. Thanks for deciding what our bodies and role in this debate is. Lmao.

Unaddressed transphobia? If being disgusted with yours views on women, incels and comfort women is transphobia then sure. Idiot.

Soz you think that cos you creep women out you are entitled to your own personal comfort women.

Is it fuck, stop trying to paint me as a conservative or brain wormed cos I don't feel sorry for people who hated women for nothing. Soz you felt attacked, you should.

I've seen your comments, you're literally the fucking problem with incels. No self awareness, no feminism, all victim complex.

Miss me with that shit 💅

Well that's wholesome but it's not your job and also are they addressing how they view women? It's okay to deprogram as an incel but if you haven't addressed the subconscious or conscious misogyny that lead to that extremism then it's a plaster on a wound, not a cure i feel.

Dude we have tried, I can't speak for anyone else but I didn't abandon the men in group because they were incels, we fought to reign in their shit, we educated them on what women actually look for, we gave them everything other men in this chat have claimed will help incels and from experience it never ever works because when someone is in an ideology that blames women they inherently don't trust us/value us/value our opinion because they are already blaming us.

In fact trying to give incels a chance is what lead to several of my friends being stalked, harassed and bullied and that's not discussing my own experience.

In the end someone in this thread literally suggested the idea of sex coaches for incels, that's insane. That is a disconnect that I can't begin to discuss. We do not need comfort women for incels to stop being hateful.

And of those confused young boys only one group choses to blame women and join an extremist group that has killed people because of its views.

That's not normal and it's not something to be treated like it's normal. It's insane.

That is literally perfect thank you <3

Sorry pal, usually God awful takes like that present with the above.

It's so fucking easy for you to decide women have to play a part in educating our abusers as a man. Dead fucking simple to decide that for us? Have you literally no fucking self awareness.

Yet again we speak our minds and men ignore us and bulldoze our point with their take on OUR existence.

There's several women havs pointed out it's rooted in misogyny and objectification in this very thread. There are reeeems of theory by women on male violence. Every bit is ignored by people like you cos of some sympathy for extremists.

Why is it when men misbehave its our job to fix you? Why can't you fix yourselves?

Incels and men judging by yourself can not be talked to, will not listen and will never respect us and that's clear as day by this thread and your insistence that you are right despite being not a woman or an incel.

Every time any women who literally knows why she rejected an incel tells them why, it's ignored because they'd rather blame us or apologise for their bad behaviour.

No it's men's job to break through this ingrained misogyny, we as women have tried, incels doubled down. Can't help those who don't want to help themselves and certainly not when they abused us.

Lmao based based based

Lmao says the failson with a literal fascist as their countries leader 🤣

Hahaha material analysis from the dickhead apologising for a hate group. You are literally chastising women for pushing back at men who abused us forcing themselves into our spaces. The only material analysis you clearly have is the curves on your cum covered anime figurines.

You will never be able to understand the damage this unhinged main character bs does to women. Never. Yet you tell us we are the judgemental bullies? YOU ARE FORCING US TO EDUCATE OUR ABUSERS YOU DUMB FUCK.

You are so fucking systemically misogynistic that nobody could explain to you how shit of a take you are.

Also I'm not a yank, and imagine saying "being mean to misogyinists is why misogynists wont stop being misogynists" and thinking you are a serious human being with a serious "material analysis".

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This thread is a perfect example of incels refusing to take any personal responsibility for an extremist ideology they clung to and one that has lead to multiple mass shootings and killings of minorities.

Yet again men refusing to take ownership or pay the price for their mistakes.

If women had a hate ideology that lead to mass shootings we'd be expected to publicly self and crit and beg for forgiveness.

Literally just classic male entitlement and different rules for them.

Cringe this website allows incels to mask off and play the victims like in this thread.

Wonder how many women have left or made new profiles to hide themselves because of embarrassments like this?

We wouldn't give nazi's, transphobes, fascists, libs space to mask off like this, so why incels? Why do women and enbies have to pay the price again for men's fragility and ignorance?

I deleted an account I made over how fucking uncomfortable the comments in this thread made me feel but why should I be scared away from an apparent safe space by incels with a chip on their shoulder?

And you try to explain it from your position of lived experience and being a literal victim of this and it's either unhinged tantrums, accusations of ableism (because being a misogynist is apparently intrinsic to being ND) or i have to listen to reddit "both sides" smugness, faux intellectualism and accusations of lacking material analysis from some dolt man who thinks letting abusers into their victims spaces is praxis.

Fuck that. Do better hexbear or ban me, both work.

Edit: I've noticed a lot of the incels in this thread have they/them in their names. I have used terms like men and male brained a lot here. Genuine sorry if that offended anyone. It was not my intention to misgender anyone if i had. Guess i didnt think people who disconnected from the gender binary would expect women to be their sex coaches and cry victim over an extremist ideology 🙃 either way I'm genuinely sorry if that has misgendered anyone, also sorry your views are fucked.

Get a grip.

Incels didn't become irrational women hating misogynists because of radicalisation.

They became incels because that ideology validated their already existing irrational misogyny and they allowed themselves to enter a ideology they should know is extremist because it validated their victim complex and irrational hatred of women.

That group have ruined women's lives, people who will never recover from the damage caused by a bunch of self absorbed victim complexes justifying their bigotry with "boohoo i didn't get the trad wife or a free pass to success i was promised for being born amab" and now you want us to let that shit slide? Not including the fact we worked ten times harder than men, get a job and then incels blame DEI or hiring practises favouring us for why they lost (not our effort or skill) and then hate us even more.

Lmao how about incels grow the fuck up, address what misogyny lead them into a violent extremist ideology and then and only then when they've owned their shitty behaviour can they try to re-enter women's spaces but by the looks of your comment and everyone else's y'all would rather cry about how you should be given another chance and how it wasnt your fault vs taking some actual fucking responsibility.

Ever single "reformed" incel apologises for what they did, what they thought and refuses to accept any personal responsibility for their unhinged misogyny that lead them down that path and then they jump into threads like this and cry about literally the same shit everyone goes through as their justification for it and how they are allowed to be forgiven for their extremism and then have the nerve to be misogynistic and self absorbed proving they literally haven't addressed shit.

Cry more. If you irrationally blame women for societies failures don't act surprised when we don't trust you in our spaces idiot.

"PeOpLe DoN't UnDeRsTaNd InCeLs"

No, incels don't understand themselves. People died and had their lives ruined by this ideology, a majority of white male mass shootings are linked with this ideology and we are the ones being judgemental bullies after you demand us (the victims) to forgive and tolerate you?

Peak fucking entitlement.

All this thread shows me is that incels feel like the biggest sad victims in the world and that's so funny when you've had every privilege we as women don't and you still fail and think being an extremist is a fine reaction.

With a take like this it's clear your mum had to drop you off and pick you up from school.

Take out the weaponised socialist rhetoric from a lot of comments in this thread and it boils down to:

"If you don't let incels into women's spaces and tolerate our irrational misogyny/victim complex then you're actually the bigot" like they're the biggest victims on the planet 🤣

Letting people who built their identity (and still cling to it clearly) around hating and blaming women into women's spaces. How could that go wrong?

But incels will always race any other group or minority to the bottom because they don't have the self awareness to realise they need to self crit and grow the fuck up 🤷‍♀️

For every incel the left can gain by going back and pandering to them, it loses a dozen women or enby folks.

That's literally happened cos of this thread.

Plenty of people are beaten down by society, only a small group of misogynistic men who felt entitled to a woman by birth congregated to that ideology.

Society failed them and they still chose to despise women for it. That was their personal choice. Not radicalisation.

Even now they clearly see us as objects still.

And then they think it's normal to apologise for it and call themselves the victims of "grooming" and how we need to understand them?

No lmao, they hated women and blamed us, then an ideology that legitimised their irrational misogynistic hated of women appeared and they jumped on it and now they're remorseful cos they're justifiably despised and lonley as a result. Fuck around find out. Boohoo cry for me I don't fucking care.

They chose to cling to something that legitimised them. Something that has been ruining women's lives since day 1 and potentially traumatised an entire generation (not single women i know isnt worried about being killed by an incel or something that spawned off it) and now they want us to give them a chance?! Hahahahahahahaha

Maybe they should do some self crit but that's asking way too much of people who are addicted to feeling sorry for themselves and playing the victim.

Lmao next hexbear be strugglin' over whether we should let men who assaulted women into the gang cos they "were victims of radicalisation" (oh wait we are).

Banette, Furret, Magearna, Gourgeist, Mismagius, Milotic

In that order, but in Gen 9 I'm using grass starter cat in place of Gourgeist cos she's cracked.

Dream team 🥰