I think it's gross to so publicly cope away this person's blatantly problematic beliefs making others uncomfortable so you can land a percieved win for socialism and then when someone plainly says "you make me uncomfortable" in a direct response to you soapboxing, you act like you've been viscously attacked.
You said you'd support him even if he was a full right wing nutjob innit? That's completely fucked
The incoherent little guy that he is? Sure, but that's not what you said. Problematic people who hit the right target still have potential, but there's a limit.
There is not a limit provided the right targets are hit.
Everyone on this site critically supporting Iran, Assad, Russia, etc etc is supporting far worse than a right winger who targets the ruling class for exactly the right reasons that are beneficial to the working class.
You're looking for reasons to drop him instead of focusing on the important aspects of class war - Does this benefit our side in the class war? If the answer is yes, then support should be given. Just as is done with anti-imperialist war.
Thought you were one of the others. I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
In anti-imperialism we ask ourselves the central question: Does this benefit imperialism or does this benefit anti-imperialism in the world?
If the answer is imperialism, we oppose it, and vice versa for the other, even in cases where they may be religious fundamentalists that do incredibly bad awful things like current Iran.
In class war our attitude should be the same: Does this benefit the working class or does this benefit the bourgeoisie?
If the answer is the working class we should support it, regardless of the issues with the person carrying it out.
A lot of people aren't taking "class war" seriously enough.
Why is your situation different to the situation of Iranian women or queer people?
You are targeted yes. I understand and agree with that (me too btw). So are they by the Iranian government. And yet you support Iran who murder and oppress millions under an anti-imperialist position but won't support someone that says the word woke despite their actions being actively good for the cause and side we're on and that supporting them might lead to more of the same?
"You may as well ask me to fight for the soul of this soulless nation next to a fucking klansman" yeah, that's what a lot of Iranians say also say when I talk to them too. In fact, I've seen this statement from an Iranian verbatim before.
Lmao he literally liked Elon must/Anti DEI/anti woke slop. How far backwards do you need to bend over to keep this guy on a pedestal?
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You make me uncomfortable
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All of this is your head canon
I think it's gross to so publicly cope away this person's blatantly problematic beliefs making others uncomfortable so you can land a percieved win for socialism and then when someone plainly says "you make me uncomfortable" in a direct response to you soapboxing, you act like you've been viscously attacked.
And I'm the unserious one 🙃
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Stop talking to me.
fuck off?
You'll support Iran but you won't support someone that targeted and killed a member of the ruling class because they have some brainworms?
If it spawns a range of further similar events it's well worth it.
You said you'd support him even if he was a full right wing nutjob innit? That's completely fucked
The incoherent little guy that he is? Sure, but that's not what you said. Problematic people who hit the right target still have potential, but there's a limit.
There is not a limit provided the right targets are hit.
Everyone on this site critically supporting Iran, Assad, Russia, etc etc is supporting far worse than a right winger who targets the ruling class for exactly the right reasons that are beneficial to the working class.
You're looking for reasons to drop him instead of focusing on the important aspects of class war - Does this benefit our side in the class war? If the answer is yes, then support should be given. Just as is done with anti-imperialist war.
I'm literally not, you're arguing with yourself here lmao
Thought you were one of the others. I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
In anti-imperialism we ask ourselves the central question: Does this benefit imperialism or does this benefit anti-imperialism in the world?
If the answer is imperialism, we oppose it, and vice versa for the other, even in cases where they may be religious fundamentalists that do incredibly bad awful things like current Iran.
In class war our attitude should be the same: Does this benefit the working class or does this benefit the bourgeoisie?
If the answer is the working class we should support it, regardless of the issues with the person carrying it out.
A lot of people aren't taking "class war" seriously enough.
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You'll support Iran but you won't support someone that targeted and killed a member of the ruling class because they have some brainworms?
If it spawns a range of further similar events it's well worth it.
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Why is your situation different to the situation of Iranian women or queer people?
You are targeted yes. I understand and agree with that (me too btw). So are they by the Iranian government. And yet you support Iran who murder and oppress millions under an anti-imperialist position but won't support someone that says the word woke despite their actions being actively good for the cause and side we're on and that supporting them might lead to more of the same?
These principles are not consistent.
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I'm not american.
"You may as well ask me to fight for the soul of this soulless nation next to a fucking klansman" yeah, that's what a lot of Iranians say also say when I talk to them too. In fact, I've seen this statement from an Iranian verbatim before.
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I'm personally not gonna defend this guy's shifty opinions I just genuinely don't believe it was him.
Why can't we all just laugh at his now infamous bit instead of weirdo takes. Tbh though the more stuff I see the more I'm starting to think patsy.