China is seen as a miracle of capitalism, in how after liberalization it grew rapidly and brought many people out of poverty. Most people would laugh at you if claim China's economy is communist. Like try talking to people outside the leftist bubble. Try telling chuds, liberals, or even market socialists that China is proof that communism as in planned economies work.
The narrative you just proposed is real: "China is a miracle of capitalism, obviously then we should emultate them because Capitalism FTW baby yeah."
The actual narrative: "Evil Communist authoritarian CCCCCCCCPPPPPP genociding muslims we must do something to stop communism from ruling the world."
This narrative that most people see China as a "miracle of Capitalism" certainly does not align to anything you can find online. Maybe in real life you can find some neckbeard on the back of a trailer that believes China is great because of Capitalist but that is certainly not the narrative being pushed by the western media.
At the very least, if people thought China was the shining beacon of capitalism they wouldn't be so hell bent on hating it and I can't imagine the double think required to be a neoliberal zealot while simultaniously believing that China is the capitalist dream, sorry miracle on earth.
If you want to claim that most westerns have zero clue how the Chinese economy works and couldn't explain the difference between China and the west, then sure that is fair.
But I am reasonably sure most people believe the Chinese government controls everything including the economy(that is their definition of authoritarian) and that most corporations are corrupt. If they accept that China is capitalist at most they'll also point out it isn't true capitalism because something something evil authoritarian CCP.
Evidence of what? That state involvement is good? How is that supposed to help the communist argument, unless you think that communism is when the govt does everything.
China is seen as a miracle of capitalism, in how after liberalization it grew rapidly and brought many people out of poverty. Most people would laugh at you if claim China's economy is communist. Like try talking to people outside the leftist bubble. Try telling chuds, liberals, or even market socialists that China is proof that communism as in planned economies work.
The narrative you just proposed is real: "China is a miracle of capitalism, obviously then we should emultate them because Capitalism FTW baby yeah."
The actual narrative: "Evil Communist authoritarian CCCCCCCCPPPPPP genociding muslims we must do something to stop communism from ruling the world."
This narrative that most people see China as a "miracle of Capitalism" certainly does not align to anything you can find online. Maybe in real life you can find some neckbeard on the back of a trailer that believes China is great because of Capitalist but that is certainly not the narrative being pushed by the western media.
At the very least, if people thought China was the shining beacon of capitalism they wouldn't be so hell bent on hating it and I can't imagine the double think required to be a neoliberal zealot while simultaniously believing that China is the capitalist dream, sorry miracle on earth.
If you want to claim that most westerns have zero clue how the Chinese economy works and couldn't explain the difference between China and the west, then sure that is fair.
But I am reasonably sure most people believe the Chinese government controls everything including the economy(that is their definition of authoritarian) and that most corporations are corrupt. If they accept that China is capitalist at most they'll also point out it isn't true capitalism because something something evil authoritarian CCP.
No seriously, talk to people irl. Try telling them, "I support planned economies because it works in China". And see for yourself how people react.
ok show you a five year plan?? like give them the evidence??? heloo???
Evidence of what? That state involvement is good? How is that supposed to help the communist argument, unless you think that communism is when the govt does everything.