Seriously, imagine being a class reductionist. I could never be one. Just the pervasiveness of racism, bigotry, misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, et al that I have personally experiened tells me that there are other dynamics that intersect with class that are very, very relevant. But sure, tell me all about how the white guy who quotes black crime stats and seeks out suburbs that are virtually all white to live in would totally be a good comrade if you could just have 15 minutes to explain class consciousness to him. Or the evangelical nut who somehow in 2021 considers transgenderism a sin and a mental illness akshully only sees is that way because of class. Go ahead.

Seriously if you see any class reductionism here just tag me, I love banning class reductionists. It's fun for me.

    • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I didn't say "class reductionism is worse" I said that I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. Honestly I still don't.

      To be clear, I totally agree that doing active work to root out white supremacy is vital. I'm constantly finding myself relearning unconscious internalized racism - I'm absolutely not trying to pull a "I'm a communist so I'm not a racist" thing, because bigotry is more complicated and ingrained, especially cis white people, and yes communists too. That's why I never speak over BIPOC comrades (it's also in our bylaws).

      But honestly I've literally never heard them complain about class reductionism, exactly the opposite - my BIPOC comrades and I are united against liberal anti-racism because it's A. race reductionist non-materialist nonsense and B. EXTREMELY prevalent in Americans who claim to do anti-racist work, e.g this new wave of corporate anti-racism training consultants.

      Stupidpol isn't really even "class reductionist," they're basically just right wing, so their view can be discarded. But you said "it's not just stupidpol," so I was just asking for clarification on what you meant.

      EDIT: Also lmk if you have any book recs on the subject :read-theory: