Yeah I know people on Twitter and Facebook and everything are ignorant too but what specifically about Redditors makes them obnoxiously liberal? The average Facebook user is like 65 and they grew up huffing lead and being told they were gonna get nuked by commies so obviously they're gonna be psychotic and the cringiest Twitter users are usually some type of bougie 40 year old.
Part of this "overly abrasive when talking to liberals" thing is not knowing whether a person on the internet is persuadable, unpersuadable but at least earnest, or just outright fucking with you. Another part of it is the lib habit of treating incivility as a sin, but treating reprehensible ideas as somehow necessary for the existence of a free society.
I'd say that figuring this out is tricky, and a valuable skill. I think that if you want to be effective at getting through to people (this isn't everyone's objective of course), it's better to drop conversations than get hostile, unless you've already started to "win the crowd" so to speak. If you're talking to libs on their home turf, there's absolutely going to be a lot of bs to contend with. The way I see it, the key is to be tactical and get people to eventually move on to a space (could be Hexbear.net or otherwise) where you can really push them a bit harder.
The best thing that can happen is that you win over the "voters" which will make you look good to the "lurkers". The person you are directly replying to is almost irrelevant to the whole thing.
Hard to stress this point enough.