With Putin talking about the orthodox church being holy and using to justify some conservative bullshit, all I can remember was the bolsheviks going around the country proudly declaring that cities were now "officially godless" and redistributing the church's gold amongst the people and using it to pay for electrification projects.

  • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    People were just hiding their religion back then. It was one of the most stupid descisions of the USSR, people who supported socialism were alienated because they couldn't pray and their preachers had to go into hiding or were deported.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      because they couldn’t pray and their preachers had to go into hiding or were deported.

      This reads like anti soviet rhetoric.

      • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Because that was an extremly shortsighted thing to do, there is little here to defend or talk positively about. It didn't work and was counterproductive. Though to be fair, most Mullahs weren't deported, they just left or went into hiding. I have no idea about the christians.

        This is definitly something we have to learn from and should not repeat.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          China's doing a good job with it. Using their expropriate political power and allow it to exist instead of exterminate methods.

          • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Exactly, most faith just went underground and it led to resentment with soviet institutions. You can't forbid culture or religion wholesale it doesn't work.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Completely forbidding anything that isn't a new cultural development will lead to erosion of trust. You have to wean people off old ways of thinking by being better than their old support systems.

              If socialism is going to win, it's going to be by just being better, not by banning old ways of thought (exceptions for old ways of thought that require oppression of individuals or groups).