YOU NEGATE THE EMO IF YOU APPEAL TO COLD DEAD SCIENCE YOU CAN'T FUCKING CONVEY EMOTIONS USING MATH FUCK YOU YOU STUPID FUCK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THE ENTIRE ART FORM

cringe lyrics too often ruin otherwise perfectly fine songs :angery:

Cathy Brennan is a Fake Goth

  • sappho [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    If depression was as simple as problems with dopamine and serotonin levels it wouldn't be a growing epidemic. The "low serotonin" idea isn't supported at all anymore, it never was, it was just a convenient lie for SSRI marketers. This is one of my number one pet peeves. I can't stand people peddling this distorted narrative about mental health.

    • carbohydra [des/pair]
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      3 years ago

      same, I didn't want to be nuanced in my rant but you are correct

      • sappho [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Basically - just because adding serotonin fixed the problem doesn't mean that the issue was low serotonin in the first place. Serotonin levels go up within the first day or so of using SSRIs, but they aren't effective for clinical depression for several weeks. (In disorders that actually have lowered serotonin as a documented effect - like PMDD - SSRIs can be taken on an as-needed basis, for only a few days or a week, to eliminate symptoms.) It's hypothesized that when SSRIs do help for depression, they're creating some sort of second-order effect like increasing neurogenesis or lowering inflammation. Newer research on pharmaceutical treatments for depression generally does not focus on the overly simplistic angle of raising or lowering the levels of various neurotransmitters.

        I'm really glad that SSRIs worked so well for you! I just really hate this narrative that depression = low serotonin, therefore serotonin drugs = curing the root cause of depression. It's actively harmful to promote it as SSRIs are effective for only a very small population of people, and it obscures the social causes of depression by flattening things into a purely bio-chemical story.

  • sam5673 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Phil Ochs is pretty good for that sort of thing

    example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTnfT7MCoPI

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    thats my i like my emo music to be about the empty consumerism that sits in top of a native genocide

  • neebay [any,undecided]
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    3 years ago

    but now you can be metasad about the death of romantic notions of emotion