Thought to ask this after a pointless and exhausting argument with liberals who are convinced that Trump being voted out proves that liberal democracy works and that Bernie and AOC are going to fix capitalism.

Surely as capitalism continues to decay and it becomes clear that the only possible futures are socialism or barbarism, there's going to come a point where nobody is going to believe that the Bidens and Pelosis are going to save us. I fully expect most liberals to embrace fascism when that time comes, but I've still gotta wonder... what's it going to take? What will be the tipping point?

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    :amerikkka:

    Rejection of the nation is necessary in every bourgeoise state. Desire to create a new nation is a pre-requisite for revolution in the west.

    This is not a pre-requisite in the global south because restoration of the nation can be pressed instead, and restoration of any nation under the oppressive control of the imperial core is liberation of the nation from external powers in order to hand over the reins to internal powers.

    In a bourgeoise state you are solely trying to overthrow internal powers to give the reins to a new internal power. That is not liberation from external forces it is the destruction of the existing nation and the construction of a new one.

    Fascists on the other hand come from the angle of restoring the nation to its former glory. This puts them in direct contradiction to the goals of communists, and is a significantly easier pill for liberals to swallow than rejecting the nation.