no other genre fanbase is as bad as they are, so much gatekeeping and cringe shit
metalheads i met in real life: super nice
metalheads i've met on the internet: if you can't name what ridiculous ultra-specific sub-sub-subgenre a band is in then you can't possibly like the noise they make
Metal fans as a rule are generally annoying. but megadeth fans are the fucking worst, I swear to God they are some of the most pretentious people I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. literally the fucking Rick and Morty fans of metal, they think they're the smartest fuckers to walk the earth. I honestly don't know how such a good band attracts such shitty fans. God forbid if you even mention metallica.
i think this is a precise and fair criticism in an otherwise disappointingly ignorant cesspool of a thread
edgelord genre, but without any real authority to rebel against after high school ends
i don't want any of these commie hipster bands in my black metal
oh what's this, this band is made up of literal neo-nazis? damn, learn to separate the art from the artist
Fun Fact : I almost encountered a mass shooter because he was going to the same Metal show as me, but I ended up not going.
CW: depiction of this guy’s beliefs which contains violence against women and girls
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/dayton-shooter-pornogrind-band
Also the people in the group chat running the show were being openly racist, toxic and shitty.
are there any other communities in which the contrast between it's core elements and it's surface associations differ greater? metal fans arent "such shitheads", entryists and prejudiced outsiders are just too far away from understanding what's going on there. of course there is gatekeeping, but its the hipster dogshit pop crossovers that keep trying to squeeze a foot inside the door that is cringe
I don’t think its hyperpop and friends fault for the shitty gatekeeping, its literally just cliquey chuds, and other kinds of white men, that typically come to mind when one thinks of a very narrow minded metal fan who can only listen to “approved” music, none of this pop, jazz, disco, “Black people music.”
as one of very few people who so happen to be both a straightjacket communist and a veteran metal fan, as in grotesque veteran, timeghoul veteran, im talking worship, molested and poison here - let me tell ya that you have an opportunity to learn exactly where this friction comes from and what it's aimed at. if you wanna chalk it up to "cliquey chuds and ((black people music))" that's your loss to bear.
we're talking commie subs being subjected to a constant influx of berniebros. you have to answer questions about stalin 24/7 and try to overlook the pleas for electoral reform. you just want to meme about castro but there's always some dickwad mentioning firing squads. a disgusting effigy of genocide denialist hyperautoritarian cultists that live 50 years in the past, the default perception before hearing their arguments. look, i grew tired of defering seattle-based atmospheric black metal burzum clones to study snorre ruch's riffing after the 10th time. our concerts, zines, platforms and networks is constantly compromized by commercial pressures and polluting trends. though we all differ greatly, there is an astonoshing constant in the metal milieu in that we study the genre chronologically, cultivate an eye for riffing, and stand ardently by individualist preferences, against collectivist influence over taste and commercial or ignorant actors. its gatekeeping as fuck. is that bad? something tells me that aesthetic prejudices would leave that question answered differently than compared to jazz. metal and jazz are mirrored in many regards, and insularity is for both a product of canon standards and bad experiences with intrusions.
the whole punk kids who got into heavy music (aka metalcore, post-hardcore, whatever -core) of the early 2000s was pretty cool and not as shithead. worst thing we had going was the never ending feud between the straight-edge hardcore scene and us (the sXe thought we were stealing their music). there were literal street fights over it, bands getting jumped. but the genres were so mixed up, we had punks, metalheads, hardcore kids, all allied for a few years. but then again we just came out of nu metal dominating and punk being very mainstream so it was a breath of fresh air.
