A lot of people operate on the basis that if there's juices, that's not fully cooked
It's why I always dreaded going to my uncle's cookouts
He would always grill the burgers and brats until they stopped putting off liquid and then just tell us to slather them with ketchup and mustard to make up for it because "that's what they were for"
This used to be me until like a year ago, now when I make
spoiler
steak
I grill it it medium and it comes out so much better.
Like, I feel like there's an entire generation that learned the exact wrong lesson from food safety
Well-done is not the beginning of doneness, it's the end-point
You have to stop at well-done or you end up with leather
Anything that isn't blue rare is pretty much safe as long as you've hit the required temperature
My parents were these kinds of people until I bought them a digital thermometer and got them to agree to cook a single meal by the temperature guidelines that came with it
Juices are the work of satan and make you want to masturbate. That's why good h'wite people eat cardboard food.