Here is the best article I could find on this.

The Greens' surge in popularity comes after the party on Monday named co-chair Annalena Baerbock, 40, as its first candidate for chancellor. The nomination of Ms Baerbock, a centrist who advocates a greener economy and a tougher foreign policy stance on Russia and China, has been widely praised.

Hopefully the Christian Democrat Union won't be on top any more.

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    god i hope they kick the goddamn CDU

    christian democracy and its consequences have been a disaster for euro politics

      • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        succdem > chrisdems tbh

        i mean the real reason is the actual left spent the last century getting murdered in Western Euro & the past 3 decades getting fucked in the East, lmao

        • JuneFall [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          SPD 1994: Abolishment of asylum as a basic right from the basic law.

          Abolishment of the welfare state and introduction of neoliberal poverty generation and exploitation

          First aggressive war of Germany since WW2.

          I could go on, but don't feel like it.

          Social Democrats are Neoliberals and they aren't better than CDU, they are just differently worse.

          • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            agahhahahhaa that's hilarious

            im not that up on recent german politics i was giving SPD some credit for establishing that welfare state :agony-soviet:

            • SoyViking [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Which they gutted with the Harz IV reforms last time they had a chancellor.

            • JuneFall [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I was closely associated to a mandated person of the SPD during 1998 to 2005, you ought to listen to the people who are affected and know stuff. Surely we could talk about the history of the countries that now form Germany from 1848 over 1871 over 1914 over 1945 over 1972 over 1990 over 1994 over 1998 over 2001 over 2005 to today if you like, but one sentence is enough: The SPD of 2000 is not the Social Democratic movement of Marx or Lasalle.

            • JuneFall [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Another point: If you say the SPD established the welfare state where would you pin Bismarck and the social reforms and rent introduction that he did to?

              • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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                4 years ago

                all i said was succdems are better than christian democrats, all this shit can be perfectly accurate about the SPD it'll just make the CDU look even worse

              • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                Bismarck would never have done this if he wouldn't have been scared shitless of the worker's movement Germany had at that time. The SPD in the Wilhelminian era already included collaborationist libs, but they also had a revolutionary wing before WW1, they represented the biggest worker's movement on the continent, and the capitalists had seen the uprisings of British workers over the last decades, so it's kinda obvious Bismarck had no choice but to appease the workers to some degree. He literally did that to save capitalism.

                • JuneFall [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Bismarck would never have done this if he wouldn’t have been scared shitless of the worker’s movement Germany had at that time

                  Yes, but it is a big mistake to mistake the SPD as the only party and the only relevant actor of the workers movement. It also marginalizes the conflict within the party and cloaks the factual reach of it.

                  It is also wrong to act as if it was the SPD that created the welfare state when the factual powerful and acting bodies were the old and through and through feudalist-capitalist establishment. Surely without organized workers and material conditions heightening the contradictions it wouldn't have happened (and naturally the first laws that the German states created weren't really a welfare state - e.g you couldn't stay alive on rents alone mostly), but that doesn't mean that the SPD was creating it.

                  There is also a fun element in the history of the German welfare states and that predates any Bismarkian influence. I talk about insurances and rents. For example the mine worker had solidarity funds and such for centuries, those were incorporated into the state for some reasons, but the worker solidarity predates capitalist cooptation of worker's solidarity movements.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        SPD is down to 15% - from 38% at the tail end of the Schröder years. Note the -54 seats in the pic. They're declining steadily as their electoral base (boomers who have always voted SPD) keeps dying off.

        The CDU/CSU is taking an even harder hit in polls rn, but that's hardly surprising as picking their candidate was a complete shitshow, there's so many corruption scandals around them that even conservatives have a hard time ignoring them and the guy they went with as Merkel's successor, Armin Laschet, is a complete laughingstock constantly botching covid policies in his state.

      • 5bicycles [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's the special kind of fucked up you get when you are a) a very conservative country such as germany and b) also still have some tradition of workers rights baked into the national DNA:

        Which lands you at a sizeable amount of people who vote for the SPD because their dad voted for the SPD, come as it may. It's genuinely a conservative position, it's just they're being conservative about coal miners and other types of good ol' manual labour that hasn't existed in this country in any sizeable population for about 30 years.