Relevant with the Markey comments on China today.

Also take a look at how many labor union bosses supported Guiaido.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Would this mean semi-proletarians or the petty-Bourgeoisie?

    Or college educated workers? Those in high paying service jobs like doctors?

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      This is just about union leadership and "socialist party" leadership. Like Kautsyites that supported the war because they got concessions.

      Lenin is saying the concessions come not from a weakening of capital, but a strengthening of it through imperial conquest and those who tell the workers that concession is victory are philistines and "labor aristocrats". The workers can always be saved, but their leadership has been corrupted.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's not really just about the unions, it's about labor aristocracy in general, the chunk of labor that has almost become one with their bosses.

        Also it is obligatory to bring up the fact that Lenin also stressed the importance of participating even in reactionary unions. I think he discussed it in the infantile book.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Which is why I said "the workers can always be saved" no matter how corrupt the union is, the workers are still workers.

      • RedArmor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Ahhh okay. So a certain type of opportunists, like you said in the union and “party” leadership, that support things like war in order to lie to the workers about what we get out of them is a victory, regardless of the outcome of the war?

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Basically just corrupt worker organizations. Any group that claims to be for the people but takes capitalist payouts and supports the bourgeois state. The "national chauvinists".

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              AFL-CIO is the best example. Although they're not even paid off really, just straight up bourgeoisie at the helm of a "labor" org.

              • RedArmor [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                I’ve heard about them a little bit. Haven’t studied them much but I know they kicked out all the communists

                • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  4 years ago

                  Yeah, they're the state union basically. They serve the interests of capital and just make sure that the unions chartered under them get a cut of the plunder.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Labour aristocracy. The very highly paid section of labour which has become pacified and has often benefited from imperial exploitation.