Demanding an End to Uyghur Oppression
jacobinmag.com
We can oppose the saber-rattling and militarism of the US’s China hawks without downplaying the oppression of the Uyghur people.

Aren't there sources other than Adrian Zenz to use in this sort of centrist-socialist article? ('Xinjiang oppression is real but stop doing imperialism over it')

  • queenjamie [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    There are also many non Zenz related sources in that article.

    Those "non Zenz related sources" either use Zenz or are mostly based off of two other sources: 1) a "study" done that estimated that 1 million people were being detained by interviewing ONLY EIGHT PEOPLE and extrapolating from there (https://www.nchrd.org/2018/08/china-massive-numbers-of-uyghurs-other-ethnic-minorities-forced-into-re-education-programs/), or 2) exile testimony, many of which are paid for by orgs such as the NED, etc (also the mainstream never lets us hear from Uyghurs who support the Chinese government, and there are a lot of them).

    And of course they throw in VICE as a source. Also Amnesty International lol. They even cite The Intercept, which itself cites Zenz lolol. People have dug into pretty much all of the "sources" and they've debunked all the ridiculous shit.

    As for the IUD claim, that comes from Zenz not being able to read, or more likely intentionally misrepresenting the data. He took an 8.7% number and turned it into 80%:

    According to the 2019 China Health Statistics Yearbook published by the National Health Commission – the original source of Zenz’s claim – the number of new IUD insertion procedures in Xinjiang in 2018 accounted for only 8.7 percent of China’s total. So Zenz’s “major finding” appeared to be off by a factor of 10, a staggering error that substantially undermined the explosive quality of his argument. (https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/).

    Like I said people have debunked all this shit and it's been made public for a while, especially in leftist circles. So you can't give the benefit of the doubt to an outlet like Jacobin that should know better. There are nuanced discussions to have about how China is handling Xinjiang, but citing all those ridiculous and already debunked sources is like trying to talk about racism in the US by saying "well despite only making up 13 percent of the population black people commit 50 percent of the crimes!"