you know how libs always say knee-jerk "communism only works on paper" despite the opposite being true? i would like to crowdsource help in writing a good retort to that, that could. hopefully plant seeds in someone’s mind.

    • SendNudes [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Riddling it with cliches is fun lol. I think there could be more about labor relations, but I wasn’t sure how to work it in. Like more worker perspective and less macro economic abstract stuff

      • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        An approach I've had some success with is starting with a story/anecdote about problems in a big corporation and then tossing out some anti-government cliche. For example, if someone tells you about how some project they're working on at Big Company XYZ is a mess that's just bleeding money, hit them with:

        See, that's what you get working with the government: you end up wasting a bunch of money and never getting anything done.

        It's not exactly "capitalism only works on paper," but it is a concise way of questioning both the supposed efficiency of the private sector and the supposed problems with public solutions.

        • winterchillie [she/her]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          am I misunderstanding or does your little statement say the exact opposite of what you’re arguing?

          • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            You aren't seriously bashing government waste and inefficiency with that statement. You're bashing private sector waste and inefficiency by mocking a talking point usually aimed at the government.

      • ass [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        i can't think of a lib cliche to coopt for that but i agree that some worker perspective stuff would be good to add