you know how libs always say knee-jerk "communism only works on paper" despite the opposite being true? i would like to crowdsource help in writing a good retort to that, that could. hopefully plant seeds in someone’s mind.

  • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I don’t really engage in sincere argument with anyone that thinks capitalism is good.

    Good luck building a socialist movement in the imperial core, then. Being a dismissive prick isn't that good of a way to change anyone's opinion -- it's just good for not wasting time or sanity on trolls and lost causes.

      • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Do you actually want to achieve socialism or do you just want to do epic dunks on twitter?

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Do you really think putting time and effort into explaining socialism is actually useful to literally anyone but a few? I mostly deal IRL with homelessness and addiction issues cause they affect me, people are swayed by what affects their day to day material conditions. Explaining the finer points of Engels to a lib online is the exact opposite of advancing socialism, I don't have twitter and i don't engage online politically anywhere but here becaue it's pointless. Once again, fuck off.

          • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Do you really think putting time and effort into explaining socialism is actually useful to literally anyone but a few?

            Yes? Is this a serious question? Exactly that sort of thing has been a key part of every successful socialist movement. At some point we're going to have to get people who don't currently buy into socialism to become socialists, and you're telling me you have no interest in doing that.

            Obviously you have to speak to material issues that directly affect people, but that's pretty easy to do if you're explaining why socialism is a good thing. Obviously getting into a reddit debate about the finer points of some obscure socialist text is not productive, but it's pretty easy to make the case for socialism to non-socialists without falling into that. Being an asshole to people -- especially if you're doing it in person, not even online -- is a shitty way to get them to agree with you. It's prioritizing what makes you feel good over what might actually get more people to seriously consider socialism.