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- 0.999...
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It's a really unintuitive maths thing.
0.999... has been proven to be equal to 1.
Yeah, it's a super simple proof, too. So I'm not sure why it's controversial.
Maybe it's all discussion about whether to merge the page with 1, since they are equal.
That would be beautiful.
I took a peep and it mainly seems to be people with an overabundance of confidence and a tenuous grasp on reality being persistently and defiantly wrong about fairly basic mathematics.
I don't know that it is fairly basic. It challenges us to understand the fine difference between a number and the representation of that number in a way that isn't intuitive.
Your argument is good. I also like the Cantor, Kronecker argument of constructions of entities. If you need an infinite number of steps to construct 1 from the limes of 0.333 etc with the number of digits being the number of steps, then the construction is fundamental different from the explicit construction of the same thing in finite steps.
I support this initiative
What? How? 0.999... isn't one, on account of it not one.
Is this some nerd stuff?
It is tho
no it isnt :juche-tears: 0.999999 isnt one! its 0.99999! this is 1984
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0.999...984
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We see through your filthy capitalist lies, Soros! 0.99999 doesn't equal one and it never will. That's economics 101
If 0.999... isn't equal to 1, then what does 1-0.999... equal?
The limit is 1, surely. I am a friend of the non standard analysis argument that some people intuitively don't want it to be the same and are just more in line with fundamental non standard analysis concepts - in which the Archimedian principle isn't valid, so that n time epsilon is always smaller than m when n is smaller than m and epsilon is the special smallest number (which is different from standard analysis).
This does resolve the problem, enables 0.99 etc to be 1 in the limes, and acknowledges the other person's stand point without trouble.
Besides as proof 3x0.33 etc is not a good one for 1,cause it needs a lot of arguments that for this operation this is allowed.
Arguments which in itself are limes and as such aren't 'simple'.
No. Stahp. The repeating decimal representation inherently represents a limit, you can't be like "oh, if you use non standard analysis...". It's a standard limit. And it's simply a different representation of the same thing. Stop trying to make it not be 1. Stooooooooop.
Like if you want to do finitism just don't do infinite repeating decimals
Why can't I hold all these limes?
ehh more like it's defined to equal 1 but that's not that big a difference
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but it's only over whether it's been proven or defined to equal 1
I mean it's kind of both, but it's defined to equal the limit of 0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009 + 0.0009 ... for infinitely many terms, which is 1, Usually the issue is people not accepting the definition rather than disputing the limit of the series.
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:lets-fucking-go:
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I'm so fucking in for this
It's not "defined" to be equal to 1. The same is true for 1.99... and 2.99... etc. It's a consequence of the definition of repeating decimals.
Can't believe there has to be a struggle sesh for that lol
It’s defined to equal the limit of 0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009 + 0.0009 … for infinitely many terms, which is 1.
Usually the issue is people not accepting the definition rather than disputing the limit of the series, so that's why I see it as more of a definition thing, but the fact that that series sums to 1 is something you can prove so it could really be either.
It's not defined to be 1 though, it is proven to be 1 based on the definition that it is an infinite sum. It's kind of different. And people do question the limit, actually they often have trouble accepting the very concept of a limit.
Right, there's a definition element and a proof element, but I'm just going off what I've seen from "0.999... denialists"
Usually they don't understand/know the definition, and often they seem to not know what a limit is, so that's what makes me say the difference has to do with definition rather than proof. I feel like if proof were the issue then they would be outright saying "0.999 ... is equal to the limit of the sequence (0.9, 0.99, 0.999...) but that limit is not 1" but someone who understands those terms would be very unlikely to say that
It has to do with everything and it is very tiresome because it pops up again and again. Some people just don't want to accept it no matter how many times it gets explained.
That's true. I feel like math cranks have got to be a weird symptom of our insanely individualist culture but I can't prove it.