Another thing that people do is examine how some pretty fundamental aspect of social interactions came to be the way it is, find something in that process problematic, and decide that it’s immoral to do it.
This is like one of the foundations of fucking leftism. Find the sick aspects of human society and calling them out.
Not really, this specific brand of hyper-focused, individualized, shouting at the void moralizing weirdness mostly came out of progressive liberal spaces around the 1980s and it got popular because of the Internet.
No I disagree. In the past leftism was filled with a lot of utopian bs like how the “seas would turn to lemonade” and hedonistic crap like that. After the shit show that was the counter culture of the 60s and 70s a lot of leftists (mostly women and queer people) realized that was just a cover for a bunch of libertarian behavior focused on using others for self gratification. Really leftism is about creating spaces of safety where people can escape the chaos and pain of mainstream society’s sick orgy.
The left before the 60s was definitely not what you portray it to be, you took a quote from an early 19th century utopian socialist that no one cared about any more by the 20th century if not earlier and used it to characterize things completely unrelated, the 60s and 70s were famously horny, there was never really a movement like what you seem to have in mind by the people you have in mind, and this whole "the left is just about creating a safe space to retreat from bad society" thing doesn't have much to do with the left at all, it is 21st century American progressive liberal retreat from meaningful politics.
This is like one of the foundations of fucking leftism. Find the sick aspects of human society and calling them out.
Not really, this specific brand of hyper-focused, individualized, shouting at the void moralizing weirdness mostly came out of progressive liberal spaces around the 1980s and it got popular because of the Internet.
Edit: oh I just noticed the username, good bit.
No I disagree. In the past leftism was filled with a lot of utopian bs like how the “seas would turn to lemonade” and hedonistic crap like that. After the shit show that was the counter culture of the 60s and 70s a lot of leftists (mostly women and queer people) realized that was just a cover for a bunch of libertarian behavior focused on using others for self gratification. Really leftism is about creating spaces of safety where people can escape the chaos and pain of mainstream society’s sick orgy.
This is the most idiotic summary of the history of leftism I have ever read lol
It’s true tho
Almost every single thing you said in that comment is factually wrong.
Wanna break it down for me? From where I sit that looks to be where the left is at rn
The left before the 60s was definitely not what you portray it to be, you took a quote from an early 19th century utopian socialist that no one cared about any more by the 20th century if not earlier and used it to characterize things completely unrelated, the 60s and 70s were famously horny, there was never really a movement like what you seem to have in mind by the people you have in mind, and this whole "the left is just about creating a safe space to retreat from bad society" thing doesn't have much to do with the left at all, it is 21st century American progressive liberal retreat from meaningful politics.
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