No my chair is literally an object to me. In that I do not consider it beyond it's purpose and potential to serve my needs or those of someone I consider a person.
This is not an appropriate way of thinking about a human being
Look guy I'm just trying to give advice on what's a healthy way to handle being attracted to people. Why are you expecting me to justify it in terms of the philosophy of communication
Doesn't that imply that the only source of human rights is the physical ability to defend what you consider yours. Not sure that's where we want to land on morality and consent
I do agree with that. But I would point out that in order to understand how things ought to be we must appreciate that a person is different from a chair even if practically they can be treated as such
:sartre-pipe: but we all become objectified by the gaze of the other
I'm not saying people aren't objects I'm saying that they are more than just objects and to show due respect is to treat them as more than an object
we're not though. we are literally objects to one another.
No my chair is literally an object to me. In that I do not consider it beyond it's purpose and potential to serve my needs or those of someone I consider a person.
This is not an appropriate way of thinking about a human being
Intersubjectivity, ain't it a bitch folks
Look guy I'm just trying to give advice on what's a healthy way to handle being attracted to people. Why are you expecting me to justify it in terms of the philosophy of communication
Oh I was just making a philosophy joke about Sartre, idk about that other guy
fair enough then but if I've learned anything it's that you bow out of any discussion the moment someone expects you to understand Hegel
:hegel: coward
Yeah I'm a coward from a long line of cowards what of it
the only difference between me and your chair is if you kick me out of frustration I can kick back.
Doesn't that imply that the only source of human rights is the physical ability to defend what you consider yours. Not sure that's where we want to land on morality and consent
this is the is/ought distinction. Just because this is how the world is doesnt mean we should let cruelties take place or commit them ourselves.
I'm a socialist because I see too many injustices in the world and I believe they can be fixed.
I do agree with that. But I would point out that in order to understand how things ought to be we must appreciate that a person is different from a chair even if practically they can be treated as such