Also, I have no clue who about a third of these people are.
“apologist for any anti-Western regime or militant group” will be what it says on my gravestone
amazing that neither Weihua nor Second Thought are communists, and Putin is an apologist for the soviet union
Second thought is a communist tho. Card carrying member of one of the communist parties of the US.
They meant that the diagram refers to neither as communist but "leftist" and "anti-american..." respectively. They are both communists in reality but not in the meme
Gotta be a shitpost, with libs recently finding Bin Laden's "Letter to America", turning a full 180, and going "I'm so shocked that Arabs can form a coherent thought that maybe he was right"
I don't think I can agree with the TikTok trend of "sympathizing" with Bin Laden at all. His actions didn't de legitimize Western hegemony. In contrast, it gave the US an excuse the expand its hegemony. It also did not weaken the US. And it painted the Islamic community in a bad light, making them a target of racism.
Wdym? They sparked detrimental forever wars that sped up the US empire’s decline. Obviously they are ideological reactionaries, but you gotta respect some of their work even partially as a joke. https://www.theonion.com/fbi-uncovers-al-qaeda-plot-to-just-sit-back-and-enjoy-c-1819576375
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Wait, people just now read it? David Cross even referenced it in a routine?
Yeah, it got pretty big on tiktok recently, and then twitter blew it up even more.
Idk about y'all but I don't feel the need to apologize for what AES have done 🤷🏿♂️
The USSR thought Israel would be socialist and aligned against the west. Which didn't look too outrageous of an idea back then. Also the Holocaust had just happened and the USSR interpreted Israel as Britain leaving the middle east
The standard leftist opinion back then was support for the creation of Israel. Time makes fools of us all
in public the USSR fucking rules. killed the nazis. revolutionized how industry/government works. took over the fucking world and provided a path forward. legit a monolith scene from 2001.
in private with comrades... yah the USSR kind've sucked and had so many damn issues
second thought doesn't understand that , no matter how brilliant he clearly is. so yah.... he's an apologist. this meme checks out
****later edit: he doesn't understand critical support. that's a four letter word to him. and no, i'm not a hater i'm his patreon i love him. critical support for second thought.
Too be fair, Maupinism-Chomskyism-BinLadinism sort of does describe the politics of some Haz orbiters
Internet weirdos have made it so that tankie basically just means "anti American but a lot" at this point so yeah he is now
I thought tankie meant "someone who hurt my delicate feelings disgreeing with me"?
i stopped feeling bad at being called a tankie when i realized this. to most people tankie just means someone who hates american imperialism, which...yeah bro tank my shit up. like they've given up any actual anti-communist critique with the tankie name calling and just resorted to 'well don't you know america is actually good'
Tom Morello is a character in guitar hero, other than that I have no idea, this literally just seems to be a list of people they don't like.
He is the lead guitarist of Rage Against the Machine. He is a real person.
Pfft, yeah right! And he played the devil went down to Georgia with Satan that one time too! So naive...
Did he hold events celebrating other successes of Mao or the CPC?
He’s definitely a Maoist. He probably woke some people up, but some of his stances are cringe. https://youtu.be/MUaL1FnotRQ https://youtu.be/fefr8RLwxeU
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Interesting. So what is it that makes this... fictional character so "tankie?"
I think it's how they changed his character to be black. Why couldn't they leave RATM alone?
so… second thought isn't a communist according to whoever's responsible for this?
Also, I have no clue who about a third of these people are.
I know all of them, and I hate that I do.
I don’t understand this alignment chart, but moreover, who the hell are Tom Morello and Caleb Maupin? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of them.
Tom Morello was the guitarist for Rage Against the Machine. Caleb Maupin is a sniveling, smug wet rag of a human whose claim to fame is attempting to form a sex cult from his in-name-only communist party, which itself is basically a status quo support party for the USA with themselves in charge instead, please, thank you.
Tom Morello (so I've been told) is a member of the band Rage Against the Machine, and also a character in Guitar Hero. Caleb Maupin is a reporter for RT and a self-proclaimed "American communist," who was once pretty decent in his takes, and has since leaned hard into the whole patriotic socialism thing. In fact, he can probably be considered the originator of that whole tendency. I do owe him, personally, a certain debt, since listening to some of his early streams c. 2019-2021 helped me see that China post-Mao is not the revisionist hellhole ultras make it out to be. And his geopolitical analysis has always been excellent. Unfortunately, since about late 2021 he's done a Trotsky and pretty badly removedd. His think tank, Center for Political Innovation, was involved in a sex scandal with him at the center; exactly what happened is a little unclear, since the accusations were kind of inconsistent and he was already on the Mroytvorets hitlist, but he clearly wasn't entirely guiltless. He and his followers still uphold the principled Marxist line on imperialism -- they support, basically, all the countries we do -- but his domestic politics have become more and more just tailing the Republican party. The Democrats right now are clearly worse on China and Russia, but supporting the other bourgeois party is not the way to go.
I defended the guy longer than I should have, because for a long time so many criticisms of him were just dumb: basically, people mad that he told them to present themselves professionally, and not try to "sell" communism dressed in ratty jeans and a cannabis t-shirt. And he insisted on the radical proposition that communists actually read theory and understand economics, which made the BreadTube people -- remember them? -- absolutely livid. But he if he ever was a positive force on the American left, he certainly isn't any longer.
this is a shitpost, not derangement this time. Similar charts exist like the big chart which declares a bushbaby is a bug, or the tea one which states soup is a tea.
