He's a great character, but he's an awful awful person

Many of these chuds seem to hero worship Joel. Is it just worshipping the cult of violence and vigilante justice?

  • Venus [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    He's a multifaceted character who commits arguably unforgivable actions for relatable, understandable reasons. To finish the story with the impression "wow, there was absolutely nothing to like about that guy at all and I did not empathize with him one bit" is just as bad as worshiping him as a hero, really.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      I wouldn't say it's just as bad, but it is bad, sure.

    • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      I would say for the most part he's pretty greedy and violent. Things I strive to not be, sorry.

      The people who like Joel and sympathize with him are the same people who sympathize with the psychopath Shane in walking dead season 2

      • Hazmatastic@lemm.ee
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        7 months ago

        He is. He's also fiercely protective of the ones he loves, as well as being a lonely, closed off guy who has been devastated by loss. He's someone a lot of guys can relate to. He's a flawed, fucked up human being to be sure, but to say there is no good is as blind as saying there is no bad, which is the point the comment above was trying to make.

        • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          7 months ago

          I didn't say there's no good. Just in my opinion the amount of bad in the man overwrites whatever good there might be.

          He wanted to protect Ellie for selfish reasons so he could have a surrogate daughter and didn't take into consideration what she would have wanted.

          He's a violent vigilante reactionary and there's a reason chuds love him so much